20-08-2005 08:17									#31
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I just regret I can't crash a helicopter into your house

	20-08-2005 08:23									#32
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quote: Originally posted by DanS Well the article that I quoted didn't even mention the Aussie. I feel unfairly abused. The Aussie was probably 5th author or something.

5th author is usually the PI

in other words, the person who had the idea and got the funding

JM
(1st and 2nd authors generally do most of the work)

edit: by 5th I mean last author

	20-08-2005 08:24									#33
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OK. Fourth author.

	20-08-2005 08:35									#34
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Actually, he's 7th author out of 8.

quote: Reports Strong, Transparent, Multifunctional, Carbon Nanotube Sheets Mei Zhang,1 Shaoli Fang,1 Anvar A. Zakhidov,1 Sergey B. Lee,1 Ali E. Aliev,1 Christopher D. Williams,1 Ken R. Atkinson,2 Ray H. Baughman1* Individual carbon nanotubes are like minute bits of string, and many trillions of these invisible strings must be assembled to make useful macroscopic articles. We demonstrated such assembly at rates above 7 meters per minute by cooperatively rotating carbon nanotubes in vertically oriented nanotube arrays (forests) and made 5-centimeter-wide, meter-long transparent sheets. These self-supporting nanotube sheets are initially formed as a highly anisotropic electronically conducting aerogel that can be densified into strong sheets that are as thin as 50 nanometers. The measured gravimetric strength of orthogonally oriented sheet arrays exceeds that of sheets of high-strength steel. These nanotube sheets have been used in laboratory demonstrations for the microwave bonding of plastics and for making transparent, highly elastomeric electrodes; planar sources of polarized broad-band radiation; conducting appliqués; and flexible organic light-emitting diodes. 1 NanoTech Institute, University of Texas at Dallas, Richardson, TX 75083–0688, USA. 2 Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organization Textile & Fibre Technology, Post Office Box 21, Belmont, Victoria 3216, Australia.

	20-08-2005 09:54									#35
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they should have done that alphabetical then he would have been first

	20-08-2005 09:57									#36
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maybe he is a CI?

(co-investigator, what happens when there are two PIs)

jM

	20-08-2005 10:13									#37
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I don't think he got the grant. All the money was state-side, AFAIK.

Seems like a lot of authors. They probably figured this would be an oft-cited article and decided to spread the love. Co-authoring a headline Nature article can't be bad for a career. Either that or the article was unusually long or had more subtopics than normal.

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*should I yank Dan's chain one more time*

	20-08-2005 11:00									#39
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quote: Originally posted by Sava I just regret I can't crash a helicopter into your house

And to think I liked of most of all the Events, save Tass.

	20-08-2005 11:17									#40
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quote: Originally posted by Sava I just regret I can't crash a helicopter into your house

Why not? Dare to live your dreams, young man.

	20-08-2005 12:05									#41
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quote: Originally posted by DanS I don't think he got the grant. All the money was state-side, AFAIK. Seems like a lot of authors. They probably figured this would be an oft-cited article and decided to spread the love. Co-authoring a headline Nature article can't be bad for a career. Either that or the article was unusually long or had more subtopics than normal.

you know that in nuclear physics or particle physics you can get 100s of authors

for an experimental group in condensed matter (which this is) I would expect 3-10 authors

on the higher side of some theorists are included

Jon Miller

	20-08-2005 14:30									#42
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nanotubes

now, one practical question

can they be attached to each other or another material ?
(eg : steel plates can be welded together...)

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I think the only effective way to bind Nano-tube string/Ribbon materials would be BOY SCOUT KNOTS!! No adhesive would be as strong as the material itself and I dont see any way to weld it together chemical so only its own tensile strength could serve as a foundation for a usefull bond.

Also for the Paper cut problem I suspect they will simply curle the edge in upon itself to from a little "bumper" that you cant cut yourself on. To prevent cutting the ribbon (remember shear strength is probly low) would need to jacket it in rubber or soft plastic, that will probably cut the mass/stregth ratio in half but that still gives you an incredibly usefull substance.

Lets try to think of additional uses beyond the obvious and usefull things like space elevators.

I will start the ball rolling.... NANO FLOSS!!

	20-08-2005 16:51									#44
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quote: Originally posted by Verto And to think I liked of most of all the Events, save Tass.

if it makes u feel better, it would be a helicopter of love covered in pink hearts!

	20-08-2005 20:34									#45
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quote: Originally posted by dannubis nanotubes now, one practical question can they be attached to each other or another material ? (eg : steel plates can be welded together...)

The articles state that they can layer the ribbons, give it an alcohol bath and they fuse together. In fact, that would be the first thing the manufacturers would do, since there are holes in the ribbon at first.

Don't know about the other other materials with which it can be fused.

	20-08-2005 22:01									#46
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quote: Originally posted by Verto Now, now, Dan, this is Australia's first claim to fame since, well, ever. Let them be.

An Australian discovered Helicobacter pylori, the bacteria that causes peptic ulcers. Thanks to him stomach ulcers have become much less common.

	20-08-2005 23:56									#47
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I think I remember that discovery. Wasn't that the guy who drank a liquid with the bacteria in it, got stomach ulcers, and then proceeded to cure it, just to prove that he was correct?

	21-08-2005 01:07									#48
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now that's what i call driven scientific research