23-08-2005 13:21									#1
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nothing against the English. But I already know about all them. As they are essentually part of the U.S. anyways . There's so much cross-culture between our nations. At least with regards to music. But we don't hear enough european stuff.

I have this one song on my hard drive by a band called Samael. Anyone ever hear of them? I'm not sure who they are, I just downloaded a song randomly. The song is called Baphomet's throne. I like the violens and I think horns I hear in the background.

What I'm really looking for is metal with classical instruments along with the usual distorted electric guitars. As I like classical music as well. But you don't find americans brave enough to be different. All these asswipes sound the same. I hate nu metal in the U.S. I want to hear stuff from bands willing to take a chance and sound different.

	23-08-2005 13:22									#2
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Scandinavian metal

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Since you already know all about American and English bands, I assume you're familiar with Symphony X and Skyclad, as an example.

As for European bands, I suppose you could give Adagio a try.

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I've heard of symphony X. not sure about skyclad.

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Rammstein

They have understood that German is the best language for agressive music

They don't exactly play symphonic metal though, even if they used a symphony orchestra on the "Mutter" album

	23-08-2005 14:09									#6
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they are pretty good. But everyone who's anybody has already heard of them by now. They are one european band that has had some moderate success in the U.S.

Does anyone know who Vintersorg is? I have this song by them on my hard drive. I have no idea how it got there. They don't appear to sing in english (that's fine by me). And I can't even begin to spell or pronounce the song name. They are alright, nothing special.

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Ayreon might be worth checking out as well, if you haven't heard their music yet.

	23-08-2005 14:31									#8
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Oh, and if you like Beethoven, Trans-Siberian Orchestra's album Beethoven's Last Night might be of interest to you. They're American though, so you probably know them already.

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Heard:
* Opeth (Swedish) (everything, they simply own),
* I mother earth (Quick Silver meat dream album) (Canadian),
* Brand new (latest album) (American).

	23-08-2005 15:48									#10
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Opeth

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My buddies, who are more into metal than I am, all listen to Nightwish (from Finland)

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Nightwish and Sonata Arctica are Finnish gems for those who like the more symphonic end of the metal spectrum.

Within Temptation (Dutch) is similarish, if more pop-like.

Blind Guardian (German) is more heavy metal.

Hammerfall (Swedish) has turned being a stereotypical heavy metal band into an art form. Their first album is the best, the later ones get rather samey-samey.

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quote: Originally posted by Aivo˝so Opeth

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Anyone who likes Opeth should check out a band from Israel called Orphaned Land. They sound similar to Opeth, but incorporate some middle eastern instruments and melodies into their music. Very iteresting stuff. Their latest album, Mabool is by far the best, check it out first.

Some more info: http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=2309

What I like to do is go onto metal archives and search by country, then just go clicking on random bands. Alot of it is crap, but sometimes you come across a band that will spark you interest. I've "discovered" alot of the bands I listen to that way.

	23-08-2005 16:48									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Dis What I'm really looking for is metal with classical instruments along with the usual distorted electric guitars. As I like classical music as well. But you don't find americans brave enough to be different. All these asswipes sound the same. I hate nu metal in the U.S. I want to hear stuff from bands willing to take a chance and sound different.

Opeth, Nightwish and Rammstein are the only ones that come to mind. But as neither a huge metal fan nor someone *that* interested in modern non-English-language music, I'm not exactly an expert on the subject

	23-08-2005 16:55									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Dis What I'm really looking for is metal with classical instruments along with the usual distorted electric guitars. As I like classical music as well. But you don't find americans brave enough to be different. All these asswipes sound the same. I hate nu metal in the U.S. I want to hear stuff from bands willing to take a chance and sound different.

Here's some bands you should check out:

THERION: My favourite band. They have varied their music a lot over the time, but all CDs from Theli and on have a healthy mix of metal and classical/operatic elements. Some songs to get an idea what they are all about are "Cults of the shadow", "Down the qliphotic tunnel (Therion version)", "Wine of Aluqah", "Midgĺrd", "The blood of Kingu"

RHAPSODY: Power metal with lots of symphonic elements. "Emerald Sword" is a good song to start with.

HAGGARD: Hard to describe their style, it's different from anything else I have heard. "And thou shalt trust... the seer" is a great CD.

Other bands to check out, besides those suggested by others

Edge of Sanity: Swedish death metal from the 90s. No real classical stuff, but at least check out their song "Enigma", it kicks ass and does have a cello

Cruachan: Celtic folk/metal. I usually play Civ3 as the celts, with Cruachan in winamp.

Alchemist: From Australia actually. Style is somewhat related to American pseudo-metal but much better. Creates a feeling of wide open landscapes.

Arcturus: Check out their CD "La Masquerade Infernale" if you want something really different. It's plain weird but it's one of my favourite CDs nevertheless.

Ulver: "Bergtatt" CD. Black metal with lots of clean vocals. Somewhat similar to Vintersorg. As for Vintersorg, I think "Till Fjälls" is a great CD.

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Behemoth, Vader - Polish bands

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Edge of Sanity

	23-08-2005 20:54									#19
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Checked out Orphaned Land, that's freaking awesome!

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People who have 5 posts, and come back to poly after 4 years of non posting.

	23-08-2005 22:15									#21
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well my brother showed me this thread, which is cool enough

	23-08-2005 22:22									#22
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I've made my sister register, but she never posted anything

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My sister registered on her own volition, and has even made some posts ...

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quote: well my brother showed me this thread, which is cool enough

I am assuming Henrik is your brother.

	24-08-2005 02:11									#25
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Check out this link . Probably a bit old, but it has a large list of Romanian rock/metal/whatever bands (under lexicon). I trust you know what to do with the names.

I would recomend: Iris (best Romanian metal act for the past 20 years ), Phoenix (used to be the best band before Iris, still putting out great live shows), Tectonic, Ura de dupa usa, Neurotica, Negura Bunget, Implant pentru refuz (newer bands, fairly good acts). Oh, and if you can stand punk check out Zob and Terror Art. I'm not into punk myself, but Zob have some decent tunes out, and I knew a couple of the guys from Terror Art back in high school (interesting live shows).

Some of them sing in english, but I'm too tired now to dig out specific tunes. Maybe tomorrow.

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What's (ura de) dupa?

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Europium?

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I hate to repeat the guys, but Opeth and Rammstein.

	24-08-2005 06:41									#29
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Vintersorg-Try the album Cosmic Genesis. 70% of the songs are in English and deal with nature and spirituality. I would recommend the songs Astral & Arcane, Dialogue with the Stars, and The Enigmatic Spirit. He also has a band called Havayoth which is a little more Gothic influenced but very good.

Samael-Another classic new Death metal band. Baphomet's Throne is off the album Ceremony of Opposites and is probably their best to me. The album Passage is also very good, my recommendation is the song Rain. They went to a more industrial sound with Eternal and Reign of Light. Listen to The Cross and Year Zero from Eternal and Door of Celestial Peace off of Reign.

You could also try Dark Tranquillity. Co-founders of the Goteborg Death Metal sound along with In Flames(same rough vocals, but more melody to the music). All albums from Gallery thru the new album, Character, are great. The albums Projector & Haven are a little bit of an experiment and not quite as "Death Metal" as the rest. Perhaps a good start. Try the song Hedon, Lethe, or Insanity's Crescendo.

In Flames is the other great Swedish band of the same mold as DT. But only their older albums. Clayman is probably the most accessible to somebody new to the style, but my favorites are Lunar Strain, Jester Race, Whoracle, and Colony. The songs Episode 666, Moonshield, Gyroscope, and Behind Space are all awesome.

I hope you try some and enjoy. All in the name of music, the great escape!

	24-08-2005 11:38									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Heresson What's (ura de) dupa?

Ura de dupa usa == hatred from behind the door. Doesn't make much sense even in Romanian.