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Yolky is offline Yolky
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I asked this question before a few months ago and just wundering if people are still excited, after reading an interview on Gamespot.

I am not impressed with it so far. I will probably buy the game but not as soon as it comes out and wait till the prices drop.

I am not impressed with the graphics so far. The mountians look like they were in Civ III, just rolling hills. The trees look like tiny dung balls, not a forest at all.

What is this Rise of Nations? You get 3 men in a unit?

As much as I try I can't get excited about Civ IV, espically the fiasco on what happened with Civ III and MOO III.

I hope I am wrong about Civ IV so am wundeirng why people are still excited about the relese of Civ IV and see if I can be changed

Davor

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I'm excited (honestly) about the added modding abilities and the MP from the ground up. If the gaming community uses these tools in the ways they almost certainly will, then Civ 4 could well prove a great game. Off the shelf, though, I expect a game that panders to the masses. Fair enough, but more will come later, I'm sure.

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Yes, I am excited.
The graphics look good and fresh.
The updates to old game mechanics look good.
The new game mechanics look good.

I don't see any reason to believe that this game may suck. Of course there will be issues. There always will be.

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Yep, I'm still excited. More than ever. I want my civ IV now. My daily dose.
I read this kind of thread, knowing exactly what I'll find, just as a poor substitute of the real thing...
I'm addicted. A lost soul, a fragment of a man, abandoned by wife and kids (well, not the kids ), no friends, no credit card... Just because I’m addicted.
And you ask me if I’m still excited.

Yes, I'm still excited,. Insanely excited...

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What is this Rise of Nations? You get 3 men in a unit?

Davor


Whats wrong with that? That was my favorite graphical part of RoN. I was excited when it was getting modded to have 9 men in a unit.

i'm excited about Civ. I'm hoping the interaction between player and AI is dynamic and always enticing, at every point of a game. I have pretty high hopes for it.

Oh, but I'm also looking forward to AoE III. Thats one good looking game, if you ask me. And its almost my favorite military period (i kinda prefer 1800s. Atleast theres a bit of that in the game).

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If you're going to complain about Civ4 then bring legitimate points instead of whinging about superficial features. If you don't like the trees then go make some better ones.

(Now, a good concern about Civ4 would be "The programmers have been listening to the wrong masses about spearmen/tank and ICS. I think they might have gone too far and created a new imbalance.)

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If you're going to complain about Civ4 then bring legitimate points instead of whinging about superficial features. If you don't like the trees then go make some better ones.


Hey, trees are important to some people!

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I have a feeling people who don't like civ3 won't like civ4. They have these prejudices in their head that Civ2 is the greatest game ever made, and cannot be topped.

As for the graphics, I never cared for Civ3's graphics very much (I use snoopy's graphics). But I don't play the game specifically for how the mountains looks.

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They have these prejudices in their head that Civ2 is the greatest game ever made, and cannot be topped.


Nonsense. SMAC is the best civ game ever made.

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I'm still excited. In the months after the E3, I was getting used to the game, and I was less hyped. However, Barry Caudill's recent interview was very interesting for my perspective, and it made me sure to buy the game when it comes out.

I'm not overhyped like before, but I'm now a sure customer. The game will be solid, and I will play it. It's really that simple

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I have a feeling people who don't like civ3 won't like civ4. They have these prejudices in their head that Civ2 is the greatest game ever made, and cannot be topped.


Don't be silly. Civ1 was the ultimate Civ ever made. Civ2 was just Civ1 with more.

I'm interested in Civ4. But I'm not planning on rushing out to buy it. Now, X3, that I will be eagerly awaiting. Galactic Civilization 2, that I've already bought, and will get all through its betas until release, and then all the updates!

Civ4? I don't think it will be the disaster that MoO3 was. If they kept to the core of Civ, I'll find it to be an okay game. If they have advanced the game play significantly in a way that is fun to me, then it may find a permanent home on my hard-drive. Just as ToT and SMACX each have.

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Cant help being excited about another civilization game.
From Civ2 to CtP2 I have enjoyed many hours of game time along with fan mods. I think many in here will snap the game up as soon as its released. Even if the game has a low rating from many of the game sites.

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If you're going to complain about Civ4 then bring legitimate points instead of whinging about superficial features. If you don't like the trees then go make some better ones.

(Now, a good concern about Civ4 would be "The programmers have been listening to the wrong masses about spearmen/tank and ICS. I think they might have gone too far and created a new imbalance.)


Why don't I just make the game then. Why should I have to make something that I already see that I don't like. If I see something bad, it can only get worse, espically if it's something superficial.

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Well I really hope it will be a good game. I just hope it dosn't cost so much. If it's under $50 canadain I might get it out after reading reviews here on Apolyton

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Yep, I'm still excited...

Although I will experience a short time of 'acclimatization' in which I kinda feel the old game was better. But after playing a few games and really getting to know it I will start to realize that the new version is way better then the old one

At least this happened to me when Civ3 was released

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Am I still excited about the game? I'm more excited than I was 3 months ago

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What is this Rise of Nations? You get 3 men in a unit?


And your point? I liked to have 3 men in a unit than to have just 1 men

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Yes, I am excited.
The graphics look good and fresh.
The updates to old game mechanics look good.
The new game mechanics look good.

I don't see any reason to believe that this game may suck. Of course there will be issues. There always will be.

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Still very excited here.

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I am not impressed with the graphics so far. The mountians look like they were in Civ III, just rolling hills. The trees look like tiny dung balls, not a forest at all.

What is this Rise of Nations? You get 3 men in a unit?


Graphics, I don't care. At all. As long as I can tell units and terrain types apart, I don't care if they're ugly or not. Besides, I think Civ4 graphics are good looking. Quite a fresh look, surely nothing spectacular, but that's good.

3 men in a unit, which I assume is just the hitpoint representation, as it was in RoN, is not a problem.

However, we know that Civ4 has MP support, very good modding capabilities, that attention has been paid to the trade system, that the new maintenance will apparently kill "settler spam"... provided that good work is done on the AI, I don't see what's wrong with the game.

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Am I still excited about the game? I'm more excited than I was 3 months ago



And your point? I liked to have 3 men in a unit than to have just 1 men


My point is that would be a blantant copy of anthour game, wich CIV started the original game. Why would you have to copy anthour game? I never played RoN so don't know how that would work out, but my point is, if Civ IV has to copy anthour game to be good, how good can the game really be?

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Using an idea isn't anywhere near the same as copying a game. Anyway, 3 man units isn't something that nobody else would ever think of...

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My point is that would be a blantant copy of anthour game, wich CIV started the original game. Why would you have to copy anthour game? I never played RoN so don't know how that would work out, but my point is, if Civ IV has to copy anthour game to be good, how good can the game really be?


So you're saying that you don't like when a game copy a good idea from another game?

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Yolky must find it hard to live in a world so imperfect. If these matters he brings to us are what bothers him about Civ4, its lucky that no two snowflakes are identical. That would just be plaguarism.

However, god makes blatant copies of human beings in the case of twins. Why would he want to copy another human? If god has to copy another human, how good can that really be?

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Don't be silly. Civ1 was the ultimate Civ ever made. Civ2 was just Civ1 with more.

I'm interested in Civ4. But I'm not planning on rushing out to buy it. Now, X3, that I will be eagerly awaiting. Galactic Civilization 2, that I've already bought, and will get all through its betas until release, and then all the updates!

Civ4? I don't think it will be the disaster that MoO3 was. If they kept to the core of Civ, I'll find it to be an okay game. If they have advanced the game play significantly in a way that is fun to me, then it may find a permanent home on my hard-drive. Just as ToT and SMACX each have.


TOT? Test of Time?

I never cared for that expansion. One of the few civ games I bought, I have never played.

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My point is that would be a blantant copy of anthour game, wich CIV started the original game. Why would you have to copy anthour game? I never played RoN so don't know how that would work out, but my point is, if Civ IV has to copy anthour game to be good, how good can the game really be?


there have been quite a few civ2 scenarios that have been made that feature multiple person units, and it isn't just recently either.

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Looking forward to it.

I have enjoyed all the CIV versions as they came out and occassionally still play both CIV3 and CIV2.

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Occasionally-that´s the point. We all played SMAC a lot more than civ3

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I played Civ3 a lot more than SMAC, but I think I spent much more time on Civ1 than on any other.

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Well, usually spending a lot of time on the first of a series always spoils fun from the next ones

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Occasionally-that´s the point. We all played SMAC a lot more than civ3

I only played SMAC a handful of times before it went back on my shelf for good. I couldn't even guess at the number of games of Civ2 I've played. Maybe I haven't played 3 as much as 2, but certainly a heck of a lot more than SMAC

 
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