25-08-2005 07:32									#31
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Neither do the others, if you say out of XXX chat rooms.

	25-08-2005 07:34									#32
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I never used the damn things, just had them installed, and I ekpt getting pop-up adds attacking me.

	25-08-2005 07:38									#33
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Well that's funny, since I've been using AIM, Yahoo, MSN for years w/o ever getting popup ads.

Much like how your Windows hasn't crashed since Windows 1.0

	25-08-2005 08:58									#34
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quote: Originally posted by Verto You get geek streetcred for having it and all other Google products, with an extra bonus given to you if it is a beta release.

The speed is unmatched. Hotmail is just plain terrible -- I hope I don't need to even talk about that one further.

Yahoo is, IMO, unreliable.

For the past two days when I try to access it, I get this message (well, it's in the attached image).

Gmail is the mail service that started the 1GB thing, until then Yahoo was 4MB and Hotmail was 2MB.

Gmail's interface is far more responsive (in that it actually responds instantly when you click something, not behave like a webpage).

Gmail's label system (where a certain email can contain 0 or more labels, which can sorta work like virtual folders) doesn't exist in other webmail programs.

I've never been able to get keyboard shortcuts to work in other programs, while they've always worked in gmail.

Gmail's mail search is far faster than Yahoo/Hotmail.

Gmail has new features added faster than Yahoo/Hotmail, and when they are added, they're useful.

Gmail has a far better spam detection engine than Yahoo/Hotmail -- I got 2148 spam mails in the past 30 days (my old shaw.ca account is forwarded to gmail), and all but literally a handful were caught by google's spam filter, and I've never had a "false positive".

As for Google Talk -- the interface is just far nicer. There's so many nice touches that it doesn't feel like a chore to use with many conversations. If you'd use it for a day or two you'll see what I mean.

Google tends to introduce changes in new products while MSN/Yahoo are happy to clone eachothers services ad nauseum. Google pushes the boundaries with each product its releases, and invigorates the markets they enter.

Even if you don't use Google's products, you need to respect them for making MSN/Yahoo panic and get their sh*t together to make better products.

	25-08-2005 08:59									#35
	Put an end to popups!

Forgot to attach the image displaying Yahoo's awesomeness. It's been like this for the past two days at least, I haven't accessed it in a while before that.

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	25-08-2005 11:08									#36
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I see google is still doing its retarded invite only for gmail. As if it was worth the time to even set this up for iChat, they still expect people to go out of their way to use their email program.

	25-08-2005 11:17									#37
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quote: Originally posted by Verto I see google is still doing its retarded invite only for gmail. As if it was worth the time to even set this up for iChat, they still expect people to go out of their way to use their email program.

With 2.5GB per account and hacks out there to make "gmail filesystems" part of Windows for extra storage, they have to be careful that people they invite are genuine.

The whole reason they're "collecting mobile phone numbers" is that way you can pretty much guarantee that it's a real person, and not one person signing up for 600.

On that note, people who are interested in gmail usually know someone using it...and each user has about 50 invites to give away. I have 150 total across 3 accounts...

Is that what this is about, you're bitter because no one sent you an invite?

	25-08-2005 11:27									#38
	Tired of ads?

Yes, I've been excluded from the geek circlejerks

	25-08-2005 11:32									#39
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quote: Originally posted by Verto Yes, I've been excluded from the geek circlejerks

Sorry to break it to you, but anyone who posts on 'Poly is a geek.

	25-08-2005 11:49									#40
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As a side note...gmail quietly added a new feature.

You can now send email "from" any email address (that you have to verify is you). This is extremely useful for people with multiple accounts.

I've got 3 accounts total I'll use starting in September, my gmail account and 2 school accounts (one CPSC, one non-CPSC). Both school accounts are already forwarded to my gmail account, and then a filter I've set up will automatically label them "CPSC" or "School", as appropriate.

Now I can also reply/send new mail "from" my school email address, but all while within gmail.

So I can send/reply from 3 emails within my gmail account now, w00t.

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	25-08-2005 11:52									#41
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Ooooooh. That's a good one.

	25-08-2005 11:52									#42
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I remain unimpressed. Maybe it's because I don't email much, maybe it's because I don't actually go to the website to access my current email. Maybe it's because I haven't been sucked into the Google Reality Distortion Field

	25-08-2005 12:12									#43
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Heah, with gmail you don't have to organise your mail as your RE: RE: RE: RE: ... mails are transformed into "conversations" storing all it form the start unless you or the other person changes the subject.

I've had conversations of 100+ mails.

	25-08-2005 12:27									#44
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Truth is Verto, I hated using webmail because it was slow.

Google knows that, so it made sure that the UI was fast, instantanous, like Asher said, it doesn't function like a webpage.

But now, I actually prefer to use Gmail over Thunderbird or Outlook, etc.

whats your email address, I'll invite you

Come towards the light. Stop sitting in your dark, damp deluded world.

	25-08-2005 13:00									#45
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quote: So I can send/reply from 3 emails within my gmail account now, w00t.

i can do that the last 4 years with mozilla and thunderbird....

hold on, i can do that with horde as well (for a couple years too)....

quote: Heah, with gmail you don't have to organise your mail as your RE: RE: RE: RE: ... mails are transformed into "conversations" storing all it form the start unless you or the other person changes the subject.

email clients had "thread view" years ago before google discovered "conversations"

	25-08-2005 18:44									#46
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quote: Originally posted by MarkG i can do that the last 4 years with mozilla and thunderbird.... hold on, i can do that with horde as well (for a couple years too).... email clients had "thread view" years ago before google discovered "conversations"

When you use at least 3 computers on a daily basis to handle email, you don't exactly have an option to use Outlook/Thunderbird. And no, IMAP sucks. Hard.

If you like clients so much, turn on POP3 support in gmail and use that in a client.

	25-08-2005 18:55									#47
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actually, i use 2 computers on a daily basis. i use thunderbird at home and horde at work

	25-08-2005 18:58									#48
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quote: Google knows that, so it made sure that the UI was fast, instantanous, like Asher said, it doesn't function like a webpage

IT's JS/XMLHTTPRequest based as most of the things Google makes (the most notable being famous Google Suggest).

EDIT: For those who're not Web developers:

JS = JavaScript - front-end language useful to make web pages more dynamic without using more advanced features like Macromedia Flash for example.

XMLHHTPRequest (as well as Msxml2.XMLHTTP and Microsoft.XMLHTTP for IE) is internal Java Script object which allows for connecting/data transfer without reloading of a page, thus creating more dynamic GUI (feels like a program on your machine).

	25-08-2005 19:03									#49
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quote: Originally posted by MarkG actually, i use 2 computers on a daily basis. i use thunderbird at home and horde at work

To access the same mailbox? How do you deal with having two inboxes/sent folders/etc across two computers?

	25-08-2005 19:05									#50
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quote: To access the same mailbox? How do you deal with having two inboxes/sent folders/etc across two computers?

You can set it up so that your local mailboxes act as "mirrors" of the online one opposed to being the main acting figures.
Just tick out option "delete after downloading" and some other minor ones and you've got the same.

	25-08-2005 19:11									#51
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quote: Originally posted by binTravkin You can set it up so that your local mailboxes act as "mirrors" of the online one opposed to being the main acting figures. Just tick out option "delete after downloading" and some other minor ones and you've got the same.

Yeah, but then you're downloading entire messages to two computers and leaving copies on the mail server, which is messy...

	25-08-2005 19:18									#52
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quote: Yeah, but then you're downloading entire messages to two computers and leaving copies on the mail server, which is messy...

Messy or not depends on you.
If it's enforced by mail software settings that the online mailbox is the master and your locals are the slaves, they do not make any mess on their own.
You might be making it though..