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Yolky is offline Yolky
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Oct 2001
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Convince me why I should be excited about Civ IV Full PM-box? Change here!

I have to reredo my post, again I can't make my point across. will redo later.

close for now please.

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binTravkin is offline binTravkin
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Jan 2004
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Hey, what's the point of this thread?

Why should we convince anyone?

Everyone is free to be excited about what he wants and if you're not excited about cIV then what's your problem, go be excited about something else and when cIV at last comes in, take a look at it.
It's even good for you as if it (god save) is bad, you won't be so dissatisfied, but if it turns out to be good (we all hope), you'll be surprised positively!

Yolky is offline Yolky
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The reason for this post, is it seems I am not allowed to have my opnion of not being excited. It seems to offend some people for making a few points then being called a crybaby in certian ways, so there for I say why should I be excited then.

If as you say everyone is allowed their opinion how come I get attacked for mine, since it dosn't agree with the main stream?

I might have taken your comment wrong, but it's so easy (or lazy) to negativily comment on someones post than constructivly help them. That is what I am asking thenm, constructively correct me.

binTravkin is offline binTravkin
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Heah, no use of flaming, there are plenty of people who're not able to accept different viewpoint and to avoid being called "crybaby" for not being excited about cIV, just don't come this forum.

What's the reason of coming here every so and often if you are not so excited.
This is forum for those who're excited and are expecting..

I am not very excited as well for the most part of it, but for the open source.
Actually that's the main reason I care about cIV at all.

Sir Ralph is offline Sir Ralph
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Dec 2001
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What's the reason of coming here every so and often if you are not so excited.
This is forum for those who're excited and are expecting..


That is not true.

Aside from this, there is little reason to convince somebody to be excited about something. Excitement in the sense you use it is a feeling of positive expectation. Feelings are something you have to develop yourself, no other person can do this for you (Yolky).

Everyone of us (well nearly, excluding the betatesters, which I am sure merely lurk here and don't post) has the same data about the game. Some of them are facts, revealed by developers, some interpretations from screenshots or "reading between the lines", some mere speculations. If this data is enough to cause positive expectations (= excitement) about the game in you, fine. If not, there is no way to convince you, just like nobody can convince you to love (the amorous way) another person.

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LordShiva is offline LordShiva
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Aug 2002
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  Old Post 25-08-2005 20:28
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What he said.

I didn't read your earlier post, but now you seem to be whining about people calling you crybaby, crybaby

Paddy the Scot is offline Paddy the Scot

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Mar 2001
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Kuciwalker is offline Kuciwalker
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Feb 2001
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  Old Post 25-08-2005 21:05
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Why? I don't particularly care about whether you're excited about CivIV. Particularly when you're just trolling.

yin26 is offline yin26
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My advice: DON'T buy Civ 4 off the shelf. Period. Wait for the Gold Edition and, more importantly, fan content to be on tap. At that point, you'll not only likely have something to be excited about, but there will be actual evidence on the table for you to evaluate in coming to your own conclusion.

eris is offline eris
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Jan 2003
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My advice: DON'T buy Civ 4 off the shelf. Period. Wait for the Gold Edition and, more importantly, fan content to be on tap. At that point, you'll not only likely have something to be excited about, but there will be actual evidence on the table for you to evaluate in coming to your own conclusion.


I have to agree with this position. As has been said before, you have the same clues and shreds of information that we all do. If that makes you excited, (like me!!!) fine. If not, then that's fine as well. We all have different definitions of what's acceptable in a new game. Some of us have rather loose ones. Maybe that makes us gullible or something. I don't care.

I don't think you should care what we think either. I think you should wait before you buy and watch the reaction of people on the boards whose opinion you can respect. If they aren't complaining too loudly, then go for it. Otherwise, find some bettter investment for your money. It's your life; make it as happy as you can.

As for me, I consider myself morally strong just because I haven't gone out and found one of those counter programs to remind me how many days until release date. It is possible that my excitement would be so contagious that being here physically would somehow infect you, but that just doesn't work over the net. Actually, it doesn't even seem to work with the people I live with, either. Hmmmm.

Senethro is offline Senethro
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Jul 2004
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  Old Post 25-08-2005 22:18
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Agreed, I'm waiting for the SDK to be released before buying Civ4.

Yolky, if you said Chess was a bad game because the pawns were too small, you would probably receive the same treatment as you did in your previous thread. Make a good point please. You were also at times difficult to understand in your writing.

MarkG is offline MarkG
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you should wait until civ4 costs 5$

H Tower is offline H Tower
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The reason I'm excited about CIV is because I loved Civ1 and Civ2. Of course, this led to some dissapoint with CivIII. :shrug:

Datajack Franit is offline Datajack Franit
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Aug 2002
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Wise Ass is offline Wise Ass
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Aug 2001
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You are excited, it's just that your excitement level is either very low or possibly even negative. Even negative excitement is excitement though. I, however doubt that it is the case, because you wouldn't be asking about the game or even curious about it's content if you weren't excited. If you have clicked on one review or one screenshot (even right clicked a screen shot as I have) then you are excited. You may just be in the closet about it.


Closet Case Excitement

fuji is offline fuji
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Convince me why I should convince you to buy Civ4.

You should buy it when you think it's right to do so. Like a recommendation above, wait until the community has played it for awhile and has put out some new content. If I only would've waited to buy moo3, I wouldn't have thrown the cd into the fire.

In the end though, most people here are Civ fans so you won't hear many people saying anything bad about the game without playing it. To many like myself, it looks great and I'm sure a lot of us are really excited about the next installment.

The main reason you should buy the game right off the bat is because you have read previews, looked at screenshots and have made an informed decision to purchase it. Not because of the hype.

Boris Godunov is offline Boris Godunov
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Aug 2001
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  Old Post 26-08-2005 09:24
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Why? I don't particularly care about whether you're excited about CivIV. Particularly when you're just trolling.


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Sir Ralph is offline Sir Ralph
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Dec 2001
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Don't reredo anything. The only thing you would achieve is to have it to rereredo. The best way to avoid negative response is to stop trolling and attention-whoring.

Even if it were possible to convince somebody to have a feeling like excitement, what do you expect us to do anyway? To list all revealed features, interpretations and speculations again and again ad nauseam? Please do yourself and all of us a favor and visit the features threads in this forum. There you will find all information available. Thanks kindly, sir.

Vince278 is offline Vince278
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Dec 2002
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you should wait until civ4 costs 5$


Like MOO3?

Dis is offline Dis
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Yolky, weren't you one of the civ3 haters?

If you don't like civ3, I can understand why you won't get excited about civ4.

Some people don't like the direction the franchise is heading, but I feel really positive about this one. Moreso than Civ3 after Brian left.

MarkG is offline MarkG
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Like MOO3?
i think moo3 is still over $5, around $10

Vince278 is offline Vince278
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Dec 2002
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  Old Post 26-08-2005 14:50
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Got spare money?

$4.99 at the local store. (I think I paid $49 for mine when it came out )

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Sep 2002
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you should wait until civ4 costs 5$




and come back to the threads to see the exictement continue after the release

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Aug 2001
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My advice: DON'T buy Civ 4 off the shelf. Period. Wait for the Gold Edition and, more importantly, fan content to be on tap. At that point, you'll not only likely have something to be excited about, but there will be actual evidence on the table for you to evaluate in coming to your own conclusion.


So, did you ever buy Civ3?

Mr. President is offline Mr. President
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quote:
Originally posted by yin26
My advice: DON'T buy Civ 4 off the shelf. Period. Wait for the Gold Edition and, more importantly, fan content to be on tap. At that point, you'll not only likely have something to be excited about, but there will be actual evidence on the table for you to evaluate in coming to your own conclusion.



Fan content this, fan content that. Maybe I should have waited until this year to buy Baldur's Gate II so I could use the "essential" Tactics Module?

yin26 is offline yin26
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Yes...if you felt that you had been burned by previous titles and needed convincing before paying any money. Context, my friend, context.

hexagonian is offline hexagonian
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The best decision for any game is not to buy it the day it is released.

Wait a few weeks, get feedback from players, and then make your decision based on that.

(I don't understand this need to get games the day they are released - after all, a few weeks isn't going to kill you...and if it does, I pity you )

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I think the intense passion of the civilization fans in here will mod it to the point where you will not be able to stop playing Civ4. I think part of the excitedment is seeing what people can come up with to keep the game from every getting stale. Mods are part the addiction and Civ4 is going to be easy to mod or thats what has been reported.
This has been the case with every game I have picked up. Call to Power 1 and 2 -Hearts of Iron 1 and 2 -Superpower...

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quote:
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The best decision for any game is not to buy it the day it is released.

Wait a few weeks, get feedback from players, and then make your decision based on that.

(I don't understand this need to get games the day they are released - after all, a few weeks isn't going to kill you...and if it does, I pity you )


I always tell myself not to buy it the first week it's out. But I always do with civ games. The reason? Because I post ehre, and when I see everyone else talking about it, I have to play. I can usually hold off on RPG's until I get som reviews in.

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