26-08-2005 01:29									#1
	Will you read the manual before playing your first game of civ4? Support Apolyton or Terrorists Win

I'm a big fan of game manuals. Anyone remember Civ2's monster manual? And even that didn't cover many advanced concepts.

It's possible they haven't made the manual for civ4 yet. But they may have. They usually do those early so they can get all the copies printed. That's why they release the readme to cover last minute stuff. But I'm hoping they take notice that we Civ players like our manuals.

But then again, I'm looking forward to this game a lot, I'll be itching to play. I'll probably do as I always do. Read about half the manual, then play my first game. And read the rest later.

	26-08-2005 01:35									#2
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Wonder if the 'manual' will purely be ingame.

	26-08-2005 01:40									#3
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Play first, read later.

It's Civ, and you're a polytubby, do you really need a manual?

	26-08-2005 01:57									#4
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quote: Originally posted by Lemmy Play first, read later. It's Civ, and you're a polytubby, do you really need a manual?

not really, but it's nice to have.

	26-08-2005 02:14									#5
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I will read the entire manual, place it on my desk, then fire up the game.

	26-08-2005 02:31									#6
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I will read the manual while playing, as soon as I can't understand something.

After a few games, I'll read the whole manual. It's a nice change of pace

	26-08-2005 02:35									#7
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I hate the manuel! I want it to be purely in-game. I like to have easy saccess to wahtever i need to know. i don't really want a paper edition because I can't find anything fast enough to finish my first game in a couple of days and try to develop a strategy about how to play the game.

	26-08-2005 02:39									#8
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Reading the manual is one aspect of the enjoying ritual!

	26-08-2005 02:41									#9
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Burn it for firewood as I'm going to buy, then read the strat guide first before ever playing the game.

	26-08-2005 04:10									#10
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buying strat guides.

why do that when you have Apolyton?

The only one I would consider buying is the one made by one of our own posters Veloc... however you spell his name. But I never bought that either, I just obtained an older version of his guide on a website.

	26-08-2005 04:11									#11
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quote: Originally posted by CyberShy Reading the manual is one aspect of the enjoying ritual!

	26-08-2005 04:24									#12
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C'mon, is not good statistic to add a choice only available for our friend Yin26...

	26-08-2005 05:30									#13
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I will probably purchase Civ4 at EB Games about 5 miles from home, before or after work. I will then go to a coffee shop, inspect the box contents, and read the whole bleepin' manual then and there (unless I have to finish reading it at the office). I hope the manual has some substance to it ... and not too many bloopers.

Might then spend some time at Poly to see what others' discoveries are; but most postings will be flames re something they don't understand or making mountains out of molehills (to ants, molehills may be mountains).

Then, when I have a few hours I'll rev up the game, enjoying the surprises and learning experience.

I BETTER enjoy it, 'cause it's going to cost me the price of a new game machine to play it!

	26-08-2005 06:25									#14
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I will ask for a ride to a fairly far mall, I´ll buy civ4 and read the manual while someone else is driving the car

	26-08-2005 06:30									#15
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Read while installing. Set down on table to use as a coaster for the rest of time (or until I have to clean my computer station).

	26-08-2005 06:47									#16
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I can't chose any of those because what I will do is:
1) skim through it during installation, starting from the back! It is important to start there to see if they supply useful tables.
2) DEPENDING on my impression I will either read the manual later and use those tables to make my strategies or not. But only after I play the game.

From another side, since the last option "eat it along with the box" is mostly for yin, it would be nice to have "eat it along with the banana" option as well

	26-08-2005 08:05									#17
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I may glance at the "what's new" section during install, but other than that i like to play without first. just to see if i horribly suck without the instructions.

	26-08-2005 12:30									#18
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Never read any manual. Haven't eaten any either.

	26-08-2005 15:13									#19
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Where's the option "I wont have the manual yet when i play my first Civ4 game"?

	26-08-2005 16:08									#20
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BAN HIM!

	26-08-2005 17:26									#21
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I'll read some of it to get new concepts, then play, then read Civ4 General, then play some more, and then finish it.

	26-08-2005 17:36									#22
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I'll read some of the manual on the bus home, then a little while I install the game, then I'll play and probably come back to it later.

	26-08-2005 18:32									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Lemmy Where's the option "I wont have the manual yet when i play my first Civ4 game"?

I'm missing that option too

For the first time in many years I have actually opened a manual for a game... it wasn't any use though, at the time I finally bought the game (stupid delay before games gets to DK) I had already finished the game, so a manual was useless

	26-08-2005 20:53									#24
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evil bootleggers!

	26-08-2005 23:11									#25
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Its tradition for me to read the manuals. I enjoy them, especially when the publisher and devs actually put some effort into it. Of course, many games come with built in training modes or scenarios, so the days of the "Grande Manual" are all but spent.

	26-08-2005 23:32									#26
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quote: Originally posted by H Tower Burn it for firewood as I'm going to buy, then read the strat guide first before ever playing the game.

Since when are you going to play a Civ game beyond Civ 2?????

	27-08-2005 01:57									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Anun Ik Oba Its tradition for me to read the manuals. I enjoy them, especially when the publisher and devs actually put some effort into it. Of course, many games come with built in training modes or scenarios, so the days of the "Grande Manual" are all but spent.

I like the manuals for rpg's. Especially when they put some humour into them such as the fallout games or baldur's gate series with the comments they put in boxes.

	27-08-2005 02:57									#28
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Most likely, I'll never open the manual.

	27-08-2005 03:26									#29
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quote: Originally posted by Spiffor I will read the manual while playing, as soon as I can't understand something. After a few games, I'll read the whole manual. It's a nice change of pace

	27-08-2005 08:46									#30
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Don't think I would have gotten anything out of the MOO3 manual unless I rolled it up and smoked it.