26-08-2005 05:07									#1
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Assuming that we're on a 3 v 3 continent type setup, who would you want to be our third buddy?

	26-08-2005 05:11									#2
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BAT.

Just imagine, Portugese, French and English/German teams stuck on the same continent.

Diplomacy would be a nightmare

	26-08-2005 05:13									#3
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I'm thinking that we'd want BAT. Even though we (I) want an ally to eliminate CBR, we (I) also want an ally whom we can keep control over. From what I know of PAL, they're expert multiplayers, while CDZ has expert PBEMers (reading their spoilers sure makes for an interesting time!). I don't know too much about CGN nor BAT, either, although CGN comes across as good planners.

	26-08-2005 06:00									#4
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BAT keeps us away from the ancient age UUs, and thus more likely to be able to stay at peace or win a war, whichever way we choose to go.

	26-08-2005 06:20									#5
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I voted BAT, because of the control issues. However, that would mean that PAL and CGN (Trip with ET's spreadsheets) would probably hook up together against us. Not a good thought.

Possibly I should have voted for PAL. Keep your friends close, keep your enemies closer.

	26-08-2005 07:30									#6
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please note that Trip is likely more busy now with Civ4 than with a demogame

	26-08-2005 08:32									#7
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BAT

Both the German team and the Apolyton team got along wonderfully with the folks from the French group in the past (unless there's something that someone's not telling me...).

Besides, I like the idea of sticking PAL and CGN on the same continent to be competitors.

	26-08-2005 11:51									#8
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what a ridiculous question

Looking at the ocean evelaed by our Enkudu warrior I guess there might be another continent close to ours where could be our next neighbour.

	26-08-2005 16:02									#9
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I really hope its BAT, i want to kick their ass

	27-08-2005 04:02									#10
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quote: Originally posted by zerialienguru I really hope its BAT, i want to kick their ass

I don't think we will be attacking the third civ on our continent for a while, at least hopefully not.

	27-08-2005 04:25									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Master Zen please note that Trip is likely more busy now with Civ4 than with a demogame

Bah, Trip is very active, from what I've seen over at UN. Besides, he's the one that posted about the "Holy Grail of City Growth" or something like that. 3 turn growth without Granary, which they seem to be doing now.

And I would say that their choice of Worker first was also from him.

And yeah, it would be really funny, if CGN and PAL are right next to each other, like us and CBR. FP doesn't really like Trip and Trip is too much of an egomaniac to work properly with PAL. As a matter of fact, he's likely already plotting their distruction (and PAL doing same).

But that's conjecture at this time.

E_T

	27-08-2005 04:31									#12
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quote: Originally posted by E_T Bah, Trip is very active, from what I've seen over at UN. Besides, he's the one that posted about the "Holy Grail of City Growth" or something like that. 3 turn growth without Granary, which they seem to be doing now. And I would say that their choice of Worker first was also from him. And yeah, it would be really funny, if CGN and PAL are right next to each other, like us and CBR. FP doesn't really like Trip and Trip is too much of an egomaniac to work properly with PAL. As a matter of fact, he's likely already plotting their distruction (and PAL doing same). But that's conjecture at this time. E_T

	27-08-2005 04:33									#13
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You know, it might be BAT and they may already have contact with CBR.

Think on this:
BAT has CB & Alpha
CBR has Pottery & Alpha

What would you trade??

We found CBR with CB, but what if they didn't get it from hut??

The only other team that starts with CB is CGN.

E_T

	27-08-2005 04:38									#14
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And this is funny, if CGN, CDZ and PAL are all on the same continent, I would really love to be a fly on the wall, for whatever wars start to crop up, over there.

It would be very entertaining, like that "popcorn save" from the SPDG1 game.

E_T

	29-08-2005 01:12									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Arnelos BAT Both the German team and the Apolyton team got along wonderfully with the folks from the French group in the past (unless there's something that someone's not telling me...).

yeah you did miss something...

I do not think any of the germans here thinks diffrent then Zeri as Bat was just too treacherous!
And if their team did not change they are a bunch of noobs! Did you see their city planing in round 1? They had many empty tiles which could not been used by any city and some were even bonus graslands!

And I do not want bat as an ally, but as a puppet!

So my vote goes to Bat!

	29-08-2005 01:58									#16
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I take it BAT is to you guys as CBR is to us (CFC)?

	29-08-2005 19:23									#17
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quote: Originally posted by RegentMan I take it BAT is to you guys as CBR is to us (CFC)?

Not that bad, they only used unfair tactics and are not trustworthy, but at least they did not cheat.

	30-08-2005 08:38									#18
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quote: Originally posted by E_T And this is funny, if CGN, CDZ and PAL are all on the same continent, I would really love to be a fly on the wall, for whatever wars start to crop up, over there. It would be very entertaining, like that "popcorn save" from the SPDG1 game. E_T

I've been thinking for a long time...

If the hand of God is alive on this map, then would he set celt swords or mw's loose on the defensive, commercial continent?

Or would he think it was 'evening it up' by putting the ancient offensive UUs together?

	30-08-2005 10:43									#19
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I would think the actual placement of the Civ types were done randomly without thought of whom was with whom.

	30-08-2005 19:39									#20
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And if it was totally random as to which civs had gotten what sites, it's very possible that CBR did NOT start on the coast, which would make it more important for them to have their first city on the coast (as I think might have happened).

I would say that, terrain/Resource wise, that each start is essentually the same, with some give and take. And the score results, more or less bare that out.

E_T

	31-08-2005 05:20									#21
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I agree, it's likely CBR did not start on the coast; but very near as I predict we all did. The only thing left to guess is whether or not Horses, Iron, ect are all equally available. I'd be very surprised if they were not.