27-08-2005 01:40									#1
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I just finished my first franchise game...

Sava wins 215-0

Brian Urlacher is player of the game with 17 tackles, 8 sacks, 2 INTs, and 2 TDs.

Chicago over Washington...

my team

QB's
Manning
Grossman
Orton

RB's
Tomlinson
Portis
McGahee

WR's
R. Moss
Owens
Harrison
C. Johnson
Holt
S. Moss

TE's
Gonzalez
Gates
Heap

LT
Ogden
Jones
Pace (I moved him to RT)

LG
Faneca
Hutchinson

C
Kreutz
Mawae

RG
Shields
Rivera

RT
Anderson

DE's
Peppers
Freeney
Strahan
Seymour

DT's
Jenkins
Stroud
Glover
Rogers

LB's
Peterson
Sharper
Urlacher
R. Lewis
D. Brooks
Spikes

DB's
Bailey
McAlister
Clements
Surtain
Sheppard
Dawkins
Sharper
Reed
Harrison

K
Vinateri

P
Lechler

I did encounter a roadblock on my way to utter domination. You cannot turn the salary cap off. So I downloaded an editor and changed all the salaries of the players I wanted to like $250k per year. I mean... COME ON... how the **** do you make a game and not make it able for the player to make a team with all-pro players. That's stupid.

But in the end, Sava wins.

As for the game?

Good I guess. Not that much difference. There's a new mode called Superstar mode. But it's stupid. It's basically Madden 2005 with newer rosters.

Thank god I didn't pay for the game... god bless usenet.

Anyone else got this game?

	27-08-2005 02:40									#2
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it's not realistic that Chicago wins a game.

but it is only Washington. So I guess that's okay.

I like the Madden games, but I get bored of them kind of quickly.

	27-08-2005 03:02									#3
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quote: Originally posted by Dis I like the Madden games, but I get bored of them kind of quickly.

yeah me too

that's why I didn't buy it

	27-08-2005 03:48									#4
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quote: Originally posted by Sava yeah me too that's why I didn't buy it

	27-08-2005 04:19									#5
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If you're going to discuss , then please go over to the off-topic forum. We don't discuss in this forum, as such.

Discussing games and their features is more our thing.

	27-08-2005 05:13									#6
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Sava is such a loser... he can't win unless he cheats .

	27-08-2005 06:24									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui Sava is such a loser... he can't win unless he cheats .

QFT.

	27-08-2005 07:11									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui Sava is such a loser... he can't win unless he cheats and steals .

Corrected.

	27-08-2005 08:33									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui Sava is such a loser... he can't win unless he cheats .

no, I just find it more fun to completely dominate...

I mean... playing with a normal team is like driving an average car. Who the hell wants to drive a Ford Taurus when I could have a Ferrari?

Snoop: this is for discussing Madden... hence the name of the thread

Guy: not stealing, nothing has been physically taken from anybody... EA sports, nor any of its affiliates or employees have lost anything

quick question... if by snapping your fingers you could make a COPY of any object, like say, a car... would that be stealing?

(hint: if you say yes you are wrong)

anyways, that's rhetorical, don't answer it... this thread is for Madden talk

Imran: I could destroy you in Madden. Don't mistake my computer rapage for lack of skill. I still play on Pro skill level and dominate. I don't play human players online anymore because everyone quits before the second half is over. It's no fun.

	27-08-2005 09:19									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Sava Guy: not stealing, nothing has been physically taken from anybody... EA sports, nor any of its affiliates or employees have lost anything

Quoted for
BULLSHIT

	27-08-2005 11:04									#11
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Sava - the point is that this forum does NOT CONDONE PIRACY in any form, regardless of the probably fairly large percentage of its users who may commit such acts.

Apolyton does NOT condone discussions of piracy, and there's a fairly decent chance you could get a 'vacation' if Ming felt like happening on this thread.

Talk about Madden - the game - all you want, just leave out the cr@p about your stealing/pirating the game. That's all we ask. We won't ask where you got it - and nobody here really cares, I suspect, unless you bring it up - but don't ask, don't tell ...

* snoopy369 supports Guynemer 100% btw ...

	27-08-2005 14:29									#12
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http://money.cnn.com/2005/08/18/tec...dex.htm?cnn=yes

actually in this case I don't care that he's stealing a game. The game is a blockbuster.

What I hate is to see people stealing good games of dying genres. Such as role playing games and TBS games. And MMORPG's aren't role playing games so don't tell me the RPG genre is doing well right now.

	27-08-2005 22:32									#13
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Guy: so you can prove that EA financial status has been affected by my downloading of the game? yeah didn't think so... the only way they are affected is if I download a game instead of buying it... but had downloading it not been an option, I would not have bought it anyways. So it's not stealing. You are wrong. I am am right. As usual.

snoop: you are the one who keeps "discussing" it... and plus, I just mentioned I downloaded it. I did not tell people where to get it or how to get it. And why do you say "we"? You are not a mod, you are not an owner of apolyton.

Dis:

now please discuss the game

I shall not respond to any more threadjacks. Create another thread if you want to lose an argument to me.

	28-08-2005 00:07									#14
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is neither yar nor woo.

And it does sound like a waste of time to doctor the game so you can win so easily. Did you change the other sides too so that they had squads made up entirely of one-legged pygmies?

	28-08-2005 01:01									#15
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I admit I didn't read the entire opening post saying he doctored the game.

But that's the only way you are going to get Chicago to win.

	28-08-2005 05:34									#16
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I didn't "doctor the game" so I could win easily. I just wanted to play with good players.

Just like the driving analogy.

Who the hell buys a driving game and wants to drive a Ford Escort? Bring on the Ferrari.

	28-08-2005 05:45									#17
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quote: no, I just find it more fun to completely dominate...

So what you are really saying is you can't win unless you cheat .

I've never understood people who don't want to be challenged in their games. Though it would explain your bratty attitude .

quote: Who the hell buys a driving game and wants to drive a Ford Escort? Bring on the Ferrari.

But then you are racing AGAINST other Ferraris! You cheated to an all-pro team and played.... the Redskins. Oh yeah... real tough competition.

Cheater .

	28-08-2005 06:02									#18
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quote: Originally posted by duke o' york is neither yar nor woo.

Then why did you just pirate Eventis's bandwidth?

	28-08-2005 06:06									#19
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well I'm too lazy to edit the rest of the teams, or else I would play against other all-pro teams

it took me like 2 or 3 hours just to make the roster and edit the salaries

and I play on the PRO difficulty.. it's not as if I'm setting it up to be completely easy... the top difficulty is just insane... everything is a completion and every running back is walter payton...

there are really only two options in this game
1. sava dominates the AI
2. AI dominates sava

number 1 is more fun

	28-08-2005 06:25									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Gamecube64 Then why did you just pirate Eventis's bandwidth?

Talk to my lawyer.

	28-08-2005 06:36									#21
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If anyone deserves pirating their games its definitely EA Sports.

I would, but none of their games are worth the time, including this.

	28-08-2005 09:54									#22
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Not only did I pay for my copy, but I (usually) win comfortably on All-Pro with the Lions roster as-is.

So

	28-08-2005 10:20									#23
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I was playing on pro, and thought I was playing on rookie ... 2006's pro is roughly comparable to 2005's rookie IMO, although 2006's all-pro is harder than 2005's pro (i only win by a little, whereas in 2005 i usually won by 20-30).

Although I reserve my opinions on Sava, and certainly think that degree of cheating is pretty absurd, I can understand playing Sports games on a semi-but-not-really-challenging level. Mostly because there is rarely-if-ever a truly proper level - where you win sometimes and lose sometimes, and it's a combination of your skill and luck, but more skill, that helps you win - but rather Madden levels tend to be:
1) Way too easy, win by 100
2) Pretty easy, win by 30
3) Hard, lose 70% of your games
4) Impossible, lucky to score
for me. Admittedly I'm not a veterane gamer, and thus why the levels break down like that - and this year it seems all-pro, or 3, is easier than that. If they made more appropriate levels i'd not mind playing at a challenging level, but I get too depressed losing 70% of my games

	28-08-2005 12:48									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Guynemer Not only did I pay for my copy, but I (usually) win comfortably on All-Pro with the Lions roster as-is. So

I haven't bought a madden game since like 2001. But I suck

I was trying to win as the Arizona Cardinals. But that was really difficult sometimes. I had Jake Plummer as QB, but my damn recievers couldn't catch the ball. I guess that's like real life . And my running back was okay, just not great.

	28-08-2005 18:52									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Guynemer Not only did I pay for my copy, but I (usually) win comfortably on All-Pro with the Lions roster as-is. So

quote: Originally posted by Guynemer Quoted for BULLSHIT

because I don't believe that for a second

	28-08-2005 19:57									#26
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Want some screenshots?

	28-08-2005 20:52									#27
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sure...

and since we're going to use PC images as proof, I'll post proof I'm God, friends with George W. Bush, and the real face on the $1 bill.

also, about "challenge"

I find the whole idea of battling the AI to a somewhat normal score to just be a mediocre game experience. The challenge I find in the game is seeing how much I can dominate the AI.

If I want to have a realistic game experience, I'll watch real NFL. But I want to see Peyton Manning throw a 50 yard bomb to Randy Moss. I want to see Ladanian Tomlinson behind an All-Pro line bust 10 yard gains just about every play. I want to see opposing QB's cry when they throw interception after interception to my DB's... that is, when they aren't getting sacked by the onslaught of Freeney, Peppers, or when I pass rush LB's Peterson, Brooks, and Urlacher.

I want to see Ray Lewis get 16 tackles a game... ON SPECIAL TEAMS!

I don't know guys... but something about doing extraordinary things is attractive to me. Isn't that what gaming is supposed to be about?

If I want a challenge, I'll play myself in Tic-Tac-Toe.

	28-08-2005 21:58									#28
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You think I'm computer-savvy enough to alter screenshots and make them look realistic?

I'm flattered.

And the scores aren't necessarily normal; they just tend to be competitive. For instance, I just advanced my record to 8-1 with a 37-20 victory over Arizona. That's high-scoring for the NFL. And it was closer than the score indicates; tied at 17 at the half, and I lead by only a TD with 8min left. Got some timely turnovers when the Cards were driving.

My top score thus far, IIRC, was a 76-10 pimpslapping of the Bears.

	28-08-2005 22:04									#29
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Yup. To be fair, the Bears also gave me one of the closest games thus far, too. The Ravens game was like the Cards game, closer than the score indicated due to a late turnover and subsequent score.

So that's three games that could've gone either way that I won, and another that I lost on a last-minute 55 yard FG.

To me, that is much more fun than trying to run up the highest possible score with a hacked all-star team on a pirated game.

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	28-08-2005 22:37									#30
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uhmmm not to question your honesty...

but why, when I look at default rosters, do I see the following for Detroit:
Overall: 78
Off: 80
Def: 74
QB: 69
RB: 81
WR: 88

which is quite different from the ratings on your team...

but back to the whole challenge thing... different strokes fer different folks... I just don't see why people have to rip on me for doing what I find to be fun...

So what if I make an all-pro team? Big deal. You know what? When I play single player FPS's, I always put on God mode and infinite ammo. OOOOOOH big deal. What do you guys care?