30-08-2005 20:07									#1
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Last I've seen, there's elections happening in Japan, Germany, Norway, Poland, and Australia Minus. That means that there ought to be some election selectors, where you can put in a bunch of answers to different political issues and then have it tell you who to vote for.

Let's have them here!

	30-08-2005 20:43									#2
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norway: http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/i...g2005/valgomat/

but it's in norwegian

	30-08-2005 21:09									#3
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OK got a "selector" for you right here:


http://www.aftenposten.no/english/l...icle1104866.ece

quote: A study of how students see Norway's political parties and the types that typically support them provides amusement and insight as election day approaches.

quote: Labor: Tax-loving hikers that stand up for their rights and drive Volvos. Conservative: Privatization-loving, tennis-playing finance types that prefer the "fine" things in life. Progress: Anti-immigrant salesmen that like dance band music on the ferries to Denmark. Socialist Left: Environmentally-friendly social workers who sit in pubs and talk about toppling the rich. Christian Democrat: Puritanical Christians who want to help the poor and have no fun. Center: Gun-happy farmers who insult city-folk and the European Union from their Ladas. Liberal: Electric-car-driving teachers who don't want to do much more than enjoy culture.

Who would you vote for?

	30-08-2005 22:55									#4
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quote: Originally posted by Gangerolf norway: http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/i...g2005/valgomat/ but it's in norwegian

Well then translate it my good man

	30-08-2005 23:30									#5
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too lazy...
maybe later...
or better yet, someone else do it

	31-08-2005 13:11									#6
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All questions except 0 are on a 1-5 scale, where 1 is complete agreement, 3 is don't know/don't care and 5 is complete disagreement.

0. Sex: Female, Male

1. "Cash support" (a payment to parents of small children - 1-3 years old, I think - who do not use publicly supported childcare centres) should be increased.

2. Gay (couples) should be allowed to adopt children.

3. Public bureaucracy should be trimmed and made more efficient.

4. Father leave (on birth of a child) should be increased. (I think it is currently 4 weeks.)

5. The current practice on abortions (always allowed until 12th week, needs application to an expert committee afterwards) should continue.

6. We should use more oil money than we do now.

7. Norway should join the EU.

8. Norway should increase the foreign aid budget.

9. Norway should accept fewer refugees and immigrants.

10. Norway should increase state ownership (of strategic industries, major banks, oil companies, telecom etc.).

11. There should be free meals offered in primary and secondary schools.

12. Advertisements in school books should be allowed.

13. Drilling for oil in the Barents Sea should be allowed/encouraged.

14. More rivers should be exploited for hydro power.

15. More predators in the fauna!

16. More private schools should be encouraged.

17. Government transfers for districts/remote areas should be reduced.

18. More private alternatives and increased competition in the healthcare sector.

19. Lower taxes are important.

20. Norway should build several natural gas power plants, even though technologies for cleaning carbon dioxide emissions have not been developed.

21. Norway should make immigration easier for qualified workers.

22. Car taxes should remain at present levels. (The word used indicates that the alternative would be a reduction, not an increase.)

	31-08-2005 13:27									#7
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quote: 15. More predators in the fauna!

I wish we had this stuff for election issues.

	31-08-2005 14:23									#8
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Tau Ceti

Stefu always translates the Finnish election selectors for you when the Finnish elections that matter are near.

	31-08-2005 15:02									#9
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quote: 5. The current practice on abortions (always allowed until 12th week, needs application to an expert committee afterwards) should continue.

What's the alternative?

	31-08-2005 15:06									#10
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Anyway, I got:

Høyre 59%

Venstre 50%

Fremskrittspartiet 44%

Arbeiderpartiet 31%

Rød Valgallianse 27%

Sosialistisk Venstreparti 25%

Senterpartiet 24%

Kristelig Folkeparti 22%

	31-08-2005 15:20									#11
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Rød Valgallianse 36% was my best match
I wonder if I got that becouse I thought school lunches should be free?

	31-08-2005 15:51									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Stefu What's the alternative?

I believe the only party that has a different policy in its manifesto would be the Christian Democrats (Kristelig Folkeparti), who want to make abortion illegal - probably with some of the usual exceptions. I think some women's groups within Labour (Arbeiderpartiet) have been talking about extending the limit to 16 weeks, but it is not official policy.

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quote: Originally posted by Henrik Rød Valgallianse 36% was my best match I wonder if I got that becouse I thought school lunches should be free?

That is supported by most parties on the left (I am not completely sure about Arbeiderpartiet, but I think so). 36% is really low as a best match, though.

	31-08-2005 15:58									#14
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None in Germany so far.

	31-08-2005 17:13									#15
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Tau Ceti

I didn't know you were such a right wing elitist, Stefu

Anyway here are translations if you want to compare with the descriptions above


Høyre - Conservatives

Venstre - Liberals

Fremskrittspartiet - Progress Party

Arbeiderpartiet - Labour

Rød Valgallianse - Red Electional Alliance (dirty commies)

Sosialistisk Venstreparti - Socialist Left

Senterpartiet - Centre


Kristelig Folkeparti - Christian Dems

	31-08-2005 17:25									#16
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quote: 4. Father leave (on birth of a child) should be increased. (I think it is currently 4 weeks.)

It's actually 5 weeks

And hell yes it should be increased. Teh Christians say it should be 10 weeks. But I would rather burn in hell than vote for them. OK maybe not, but I really don't like that party.

	31-08-2005 17:28									#17
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quote: But I would rather burn in hell than vote for them. OK maybe not, but I really don't like that party.

that was very Dis-esque of you, Gangerolf.

	31-08-2005 17:29									#18
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quote: I didn't know you were such a right wing elitist, Stefu

Oh yeah!

	31-08-2005 17:42									#19
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Arbeiderpartiet 44%

Kristelig Folkeparti 39%

Venstre 38%

Høyre 36%

Fremskrittspartiet 33%

Sosialistisk Venstreparti 32%

Rød Valgallianse 28%

Senterpartiet 17%


It seems I don't really agree much with any of them, but I already knew that. There are other parties too, but they're mostly silly single interest parties and don't stand a chance to get into parliament anyway, at least not from my constituency.

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Rød Valgallianse 54%

Sosialistisk Venstreparti 50%

Venstre 50%

Arbeiderpartiet 44%

Senterpartiet 39%

Kristelig Folkeparti 39%

Høyre 25%

Fremskrittspartiet 20%

	31-08-2005 18:00									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Az quote: 15. More predators in the fauna! I wish we had this stuff for election issues.

who wouldn't vote for a party that promised more predators in the fauna!

	31-08-2005 18:02									#22
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btw

Høyre 57%
Fremskrittspartiet 55%
Venstre 48%
Arbeiderpartiet 32%
Senterpartiet 31%
Sosialistisk Venstreparti 30%
Rød Valgallianse 28%
Kristelig Folkeparti 23%

	31-08-2005 18:09									#23
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quote: Originally posted by C0ckney Fremskrittspartiet 55%

Fremskrittspartiet supporters eat small children

	31-08-2005 18:11									#24
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but do they support more predators in the fauna?

	31-08-2005 18:31									#25
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they want to make it easier to get permission to go wolf hunting, so I guess they don't

	31-08-2005 20:39									#26
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The one from Aftenposten is a bit counter-intuitive with the numbers. I would expect the higher number to signal the highest level of agreement, not disagreement. And what has one's gender got to do with it!?

Anyway, not terribly surprising, here are the results of the Winstonian jury:

Edit: Took the survey again, this time using Tau Ceti's translation/explanations, which resulted in quite a different, and I would think more accurate, result. Senterpartiet moved way up through the ranks this time.

code:

Fremskrittspartiet 	53%
Høyre                   52%
Senterpartiet		31%
Kristelig Folkeparti	31%
Venstre			27%
Rød Valgallianse	18%
Sosialist. Venstreparti	16%
Arbeiderpartiet		13%

I think the reason Rød Valgalliance didn't finish dead last is that I oppose commercials in school books.

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	31-08-2005 20:47									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Az quote: 15. More predators in the fauna! I wish we had this stuff for election issues.

It would be absolutely beautiful in a US Presidential election. I can just see the debates now

	31-08-2005 20:52									#28
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wahlomat.spiegel.de

The buttons from left to right: Agree, Neutral, Disagree

(my answers in brackets)

1. Speed limit on highways (yes, noone needs to go at 300 km/h)
2. Remove (loosen) dismissal protection (yes, it ties down our job market)
3. The planned exit from nuclear energy should be continued (neutral. on one hand, it came too early with no alternatives; on the other hand, if we return now we never know when or if we get a new chance to exit)
4. Lower petrol taxes (high gas prices, what's the reason?) (no, it's not taxes, it's the fault of the oil price and of mineral oil companies)
5. Turkey should be able to become a full EU member (not: should become) (yes, it should be an option. in a hundred of years. so I'm neutral)
6. Increase VAT (yes. you have more money left to spend for consumption, you pay more taxes)
7. There should be a minimum wage (yes, I think so)
8. Higher taxes for the top income class (yep)
9. Abolish "compulsory deposits for beverage containers" (you pay extra money fora can of beer but get it back when you return the empty can to the shop, new law since a few years) (no, the system is alright and decreases the amount of waste on our streets)
10. All citizens should pay for a general health insurance (so far state's employees and rich people don't, they have private healthcare or are cared for by the state for free (yes, to hell with private insurance and free healthcare for Beamte)
11. Germans living abroad should pay taxes in Germany (neutral, I have no clue how all that Schumacher stuff works or should work)
12. EU agrar subsidies should be decreased significantly (yes)
13. The common European defense policy should be strengthened (yes, this is where the agrar subsidies should go )
14. German coal subsidies should continue (no, to hell with the Ruhr kumpels)
15. The Bundeswehr (army) should be employed for domestic security tasks (so far they aren't, that's what the police is for) (no, see last bracket)
16. MPs should publicise their additional income sources (yes)
17. Every child should succeed in a language test before getting to school (yes)
18. The first studies (degree) should be free (uni charge planned, I know this seems ridiculous for most English and American people) (neutral. charges might help our unis more than they harm us students)
19. Education policy should be in the hands of the states exclusively (federalism vs. centralism) (no, it's too wishy washy)
20. Government support for students should be granted without looking at the parents' income (no. no bafög for rich people)
21. [b]The government should pay wage substitute during the first year of parenthood ("child raising vacation") (no, the employer should. of course this raises a lower chance for women to get employed for the reason of pregnancy risk... hmm...)
22. Woman should continuedly be allowed to abort during the first three months of pregnancy also without counselling/advise (yes. pro-choice my choice would always be pro life though )
23. All convicts should have a DNA fingerprint taken (yes, even if it seems a bit harsh for shoplifters)
24. Abolish conscription (yes)
25. More CCTV / surveillance of public places (yes)
26. Legal equalising of same gender partnerships (yes, in a sense that marriage be downgraded to a normal interhuman partnership)
27. For general elections: voting at age 16 (no, teens are stupid. 18 is fine)
28. Biometric data (fingerprints etc.) should be on ID (bloody hell no. maybe passports, but not ID)
29. Legalise hash/marijuana (yes, and then tax it to hell like we did with Alcopops)
30. Direct democracy (general votes) on federal level (so far only local and regional level) (no, people are stupid)

I turned out with a close SPD advance. I might vote Greenish though.

Last edited by Ecthy on 31-08-2005 at 21:02

	31-08-2005 21:04									#29
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They say I should vote FDP.

which I won't do, because Westerwelle is an asshat.

	31-08-2005 21:13									#30
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SPD 61 %
DIE LINKE.PDS 60 %
FDP 55 %
CDU/CSU 51 %
BÜNDNIS 90/DIE GRÜNEN 51 %


PDS in 2nd place?