31-08-2005 02:38									#1
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The save is here. In the surviving stack AM has 4/4 pike, 2 catapults, and 3 chariots 1/4, 1/4, and 3/5.

Also note that we are average to AM in military strength.

	31-08-2005 02:52									#2
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E_T - question. Is the new city intended for the hill. or the iron itself? I presume the hill. Then the question is - what do we do to prevent AM from simply moving a couple of pikes onto the iron site and blocking it. The only way to counter that is if we are at peace. Which means some more fancy footwork.

And I am thinking we do not attack the AM stack. The combat calculator shows that with some bad luck - which we have been known to get - we could lose 3 to 5 units trying to kill the stack. That would trigger our golden age in all likelihood - not a bad thing - but a turn or two later would be good - and clearly put any notion of peace out the door. This last point seems to me to be the most crucial given our need to have the iron site not blocked.

It may be really tough to get them to offer peace again when they see the city go up. We could accept it now.

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	31-08-2005 03:01									#3
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Nope - accepting it now would give them a ROP, and they could gut our civ easily. Kurra and Potamia would be easy targets. I say we clear the screen - and offer peace - with skro's usual discussion about wanting to trust them, taking baby steps, etc, etc.

We do not attack - which reinforces our position regarding peace. We give up the two catapults - but also save ourself the losses.

I have contacted 1889 to see if roading Kurra 6 will connect our civs ...and if he has spare iron.

	31-08-2005 06:26									#4
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quote: Originally posted by Beta I have contacted 1889 to see if roading Kurra 6 will connect our civs ...and if he has spare iron.

He does not have a spare iron resource - so other than military aid - which may be a possibility with Lord Nuclear taking over - I can't see much reason to waste on building a road. If we hit our GA, we may be better off adding some of teh workers to new cities.

	31-08-2005 07:06									#5
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I'll be playing save shortly.

Want to join me in chat??

server: CivIRC
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E_T

	31-08-2005 09:39									#6
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Beta, I lost connection and had to reboot, but I'm back.

I wanted to ask you something before I contiued playing.

Your still there, but won't answer.

E_T

	31-08-2005 12:29									#7
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Got 185 back from LB, accepted

AM sent Peace & RoP, but we didn't accept. Cleared and exited.

Giving them Peace now would remove any possible resistance to AM occupation in PoA. The more Units they need to keep there, the better for us. Defeat in Detail comes to mind, let's hope that they don't know of that term....

New settler in GoT, Sent to Silks site (6-6-3). Will Found city next turn.

Horseman Sheridan (1/4) moved to AM Iron Colony, Colony destroyed by moving onto it. Road remains. Sees that Felinicity does NOT have any Garrison and AM War Chariot Pyro (4/4) is at 1-1 (9 of PoA).

Settler Stack (Settler, 2 Vet Spear & Bowman Micha) moves 4, onto hill (9 of Iron). Will found next turn. Road to backside will also be ready next turn.

Workers at 6 of Potamia moves 1, will road next turn.

Workers next to Silks move onto silks.

Worker at Potamia 2 (WF #5) starts Mining (4 turns to complete).

Bowman Kloreep moves 6 onto Road.

Battle reports
AM has a small stack of 1 Pikeman, 2 Cata (ours) and 3 wounded WC's. Granted, it's a target, but too good to leave without. As long as they don't have those cats, we have a very good chance at reclaiming PoA without too many losses. They are on Flatland, unforted.

Also, Warrior Felix is next to a BoH Stack of 2 Reg Swords, 1 Reg MI and 1 Reg Spearman (all 3/3), next to Euph 1/4 Horse.

So, let's get started.....Forted all, except for Felix, so that things happen closer together.

Regular Bowman first, to trigger the Cats:
Reg Unnamed Bowman, takes 1 hit from Cat, takes Pike down to 1 HP before dying, promising.... Still average to AM.
Reg Unnamed Bowman, takes 1 hit from Cat, dies, no damage to Pike, Pike Promoted to 2/5.
Reg Bowman Hercules, dies and no damage to Pike.

Hmmm, not liking RGN at moment, shifting targets at moment.

Warrior Felix - Attacks BoH Stack, dies, no damage to stack. Still average to AM.

Vet Unnamed Bowman Attacks Pike. Kills Pike, GA STARTED!!!. Bowman now 1/4.

Dark Horse moves from Babylon to IT and Attacks 3/5 WC. Dark Horse Dies, WC now 2/5.

Unnamed Horse, in Pot, named Horseman Stonewall. Attacks 2/5 WC. Kills WC, now 2/4. Forted in IT.

Now only 2 1/4 WC's left, so chance of Reteat.

Bowman Skrobism attacks and kills WC, no wounds, no Pormotion.

Horseman Sherman Attacks last WC. Kills WC, recatures Cats, takes 1 wound, no Promotion and Retires back to IT and Forts.

Cats Renamed to 'Tosses Cats & Dogs' and 'Tosses Cows'

New Warrior in Hookah moved to IT. New Warrior in Babylon moved to IT.

Still average to AM.

Ending Turn.

E_T

	31-08-2005 12:41									#8
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Oh, Palace Expanded, built a nice looking Lawn.

Sent 192 gold to LB.

We have +36 GPT income.

If we can get peace with AM, After they return our lost cities, then we can think about research.

Having 2 more cities will help.

Set to build as many Spear and Warriors as possible.

Will have Horses Reconnected in 3 more turns.

Lets hope they use the rest of what they have in in Potamia come and attack IT, as IT still will grind them up, especially with the 2 cats.

If we totally turn this around, maybe we can get Them to Come and join the Anti-BoH alliance.

Target of oppertunity of BoH, but it was better to have Felix die a long way from home, than to continue to pay for his upkeep. BoH might be pissed, but they should know, that it was a forgone conclusion. Also, we can show to the world (while discussing things with them) that we are still fighing them.

E_T

E_T

	31-08-2005 16:57									#9
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quote: Originally posted by E_T Target of oppertunity of BoH, but it was better to have Felix die a long way from home, than to continue to pay for his upkeep.

skro - this is the point that should be made to BOH in your discussions.