06-09-2005 17:51									#1
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quote: The Fighting Temeraire by Turner has beaten works by Van Gogh, Hogarth and David Hockney to be named the greatest painting in Britain in a public vote. Constable's The Hay Wain came second in the poll, organised by BBC Radio 4's Today programme in association with the National Gallery in London. A Bar at the Folies-Bergere by Edouard Manet came third, while The Arnolfini Portrait by Jan van Eyck came fourth. Any painting in a British art gallery was eligible, regardless of its origin. The other paintings on the shortlist were: The Baptism of Christ by Piero della Francesca A Rake's Progress by William Hogarth The Reverend Robert Walker Skating on Duddingston Loch by Sir Henry Raeburn The Last of England by Ford Madox Brown Sunflowers by Vincent Van Gogh Mr and Mrs Clark and Percy by David Hockney

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertai...rts/4214824.stm

Turner referred to his painting as "My Darling", and refused to sell it.


So, Brits and non-Brits alike- which painting (either on the short-list, or off the short-list) do you think is the greatest in the United Kingdom ?

	06-09-2005 17:54									#2
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Right answers: No one cares.

	06-09-2005 17:56									#3
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quote: Originally posted by Pekka Right answers: No one cares.

Unscrew.

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not my fault you're into sissy things like UK paintings. What's next? Tea drinking and EU directives? Growin little beard on your chin and wearing some stupid hat with sunglasses too big? Not bothering to wear any deodorant, because it's unnatural, and you smell so good naturally. Little red book in the back pocket always? Crappy Portugese wine thinking it's good only because it costed more than 3 euros? UK paintings?

	06-09-2005 18:00									#5
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quote: Originally posted by Pekka not my fault you're into sissy things like UK paintings. What's next? Tea drinking and EU directives? Growin little beard on your chin and wearing some stupid hat with sunglasses too big? Not bothering to wear any deodorant, because it's unnatural, and you smell so good naturally. Little red book in the back pocket always? Crappy Portugese wine thinking it's good only because it costed more than 3 euros? UK paintings?

Coudl you do something useful and Pekka-like, like go off and wrestle a leaky barrel of uranium hexafluoride ?

	06-09-2005 18:04									#6
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No I rather bust all of you fake art lovers. You know nothing about art most likely. But you want to know something, so you can blend into the leftist elite culture of tolerating death and murder for YOUR cause, and judging harshly others for their sins. Those people are known as hypocrites. Like said here, you want me to go and catch horrible injuries for stating the truth, so you can spread your lies and play your game of deception. Fool people into your political agenda? I don't think so Molly Bloom, not this time. I'm here to stop you and your evil plans. But first.. I'll go fetch a pizza.. Mmm.. hungry..

	06-09-2005 18:16									#7
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Pekka

	06-09-2005 19:47									#8
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It's a nice painting but pretty bland.

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no nude chicks...

	06-09-2005 20:08									#10
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I think the greatest painting in this thread is Japhers avatar.

	06-09-2005 22:15									#11
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You have taste then... and Joncha would thank you.

	06-09-2005 22:20									#12
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Yes I eat small babies for breakfast. That said, how is your new family member doing?

	06-09-2005 22:38									#13
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She's good.

She has been crying a lot and the past couple of days has been spitting up a lot too. Wifey is worried so we are going in to see the doctor here in about an hour.

	06-09-2005 22:40									#14
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Oh.. it's prolly nothing though.. but better be safe and sure!

Spitting.. maybe she has aching tummy?

	06-09-2005 22:52									#15
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I think it's a tummy ache. I think wifey feeds her too much.

But, in all fairness, I know nothing about kids. Let the doctors tell us what is wrong.

	07-09-2005 11:07									#16
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Sunflowers? The thing looks awful, the paint has degraded. Whatever merit it may have possessed it now lacks.

	08-09-2005 00:06									#17
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I've got a print of "Temeraire" on my wall. It's a great picture- the grand old warship being towed away to be broken up by a new-fangled smoke-belching steam tug.

Mortality. Romance. The pitiless march of time and progress. A sunset that sets the sky on fire. Turner was a genius.

	08-09-2005 00:07									#18
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Yes but it would be good if we had all the paintings posted to compare.

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My favourite:

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	08-09-2005 16:46									#20
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Yesterday one of our latenight talkers assumed the first place for Turner's pic had to do with some nostalgia towards the empire, you know like "Rule, Britannia, Rule the Waves" etc.

But maybe he was just trolling

	08-09-2005 16:46									#21
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Japher, so what was the verdict? Everything OK, yes?

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quote: Originally posted by BeBro Yesterday one of our latenight talkers assumed the first place for Turner's pic had to do with some nostalgia towards the empire, you know like "Rule, Britannia, Rule the Waves" etc. But maybe he was just trolling

Wagner and Beethoven both used 'Rule Britannia' as 'inspiration'.

Wily Germans.

Kurt Weilly Germans.

	08-09-2005 17:26									#23
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If you fancy oggling some fantastic masterpieces, check out The National Gallery, you can zoom into their whole collection...

	08-09-2005 19:13									#24
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Apparently Turner did offer to sell the painting to the widow of the man who captained the Temeraire at Trafalgar. Her answer was "Two hundred pounds for a painting by a LIVING artist? No."

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quote: Japher, so what was the verdict? Everything OK, yes?

All good... touch of the colic

	10-09-2005 15:13									#26
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The Baptism of Christ, by Piero della Francesca, in the National Gallery in London:

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	10-09-2005 15:16									#27
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Oops, wrong Rake:

Should have been: http://www.channel4.com/culture/mic...rs/hogarth.html

Hogarth's : The Orgy The Rake at the Rose Tavern (A Rake's Progress III)', in Sir John Soane's Museum, London:

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Ford Madox Brown's 'The Last Of England', from the Fitzwilliam Museum, Cambridge:

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'The Reverend Robert Walker Skating on Duddingston Loch' by Sir Henry Raeburn, now a popular Christmas card. From the National Galleries of Scotland:

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	10-09-2005 15:21									#30
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David Hockney's: 'Mr and Mrs Clark and Percy', in the Tate Modern:

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