07-09-2005 10:54									#1
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California legislature passes bill allowing gay marriage

	07-09-2005 10:58									#2
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	07-09-2005 10:59									#3
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Driving up the mountain and getting married on the Tahoe Queen* or M.S. Dixie* in Emerald Bay, Lake Tahoe or at any of the ski resorts

*Both are paddle-wheelers

	07-09-2005 11:24									#4
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Ah, even more work for divorce lawyers.

	07-09-2005 11:44									#5
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Damn you activist legislators!

They think they can just change the laws as they see fit.

	07-09-2005 12:10									#6
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This is going to be a fun week, if not month, in the Bay Area.

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I heard that Governator is going to veto it because it wasn't a decision "by the people" (in other words by referendum ).

Populism:

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quote: Originally posted by ixnay Damn you activist legislators! They think they can just change the laws as they see fit.

	07-09-2005 19:02									#9
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This give Chief Justice George an out.

In Lockyer v. San Francisco, the California Supreme Court says quite clearly that only the Leglislature can create laws dealing with marriage. With that phrase as a backdrop, I don't see how the Supremes, if they find a violation of the Equal Protection Clause, can judicially create gay marriages. I think the Cal. Supremes would have to strike down all marriages because the law permitting them in California was constitutional.

Actually, if Arnold is cool, he can just sit around for 12 days and the bill becomes a law unless he vetos it.

	07-09-2005 19:30									#11
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Btw, gays won't marry anyway, because they're just a bunch of homosluts.

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Marrying is just so reactionary. Too bad that in this country it comes with tax advantage and the option to share property so that in case of death the partner gets it all. So gays want to marry.

	08-09-2005 02:06									#13
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@ activist legislatures

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How could Ahnold not veto it? The national party will hang him in effigy if he doesn't.

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He doesn't care for the national party. UNLESS they change the constitution in that bit there you know which

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on the news today, I heard Arnold said this is for the courts to decide, not by his signature


uhmmm haven't republicans been saying they don't like the courts deciding this stuff?

	08-09-2005 03:39									#17
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Hey guys

Are Californians starting to realize they actually really did elect ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER as governor

	08-09-2005 04:24									#18
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Gay "marriage"

quote: Btw, gays won't marry anyway, because they're just a bunch of homosluts

Hey!!

	08-09-2005 04:32									#19
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Here comes that rapture.

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Doing these things the democratic way.

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Doing the right thing by any means necessary.

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quote: Originally posted by Az Btw, gays won't marry anyway, because they're just a bunch of homosluts.

i remeber reading an article by some gay dude a while back, he was outraged by the whole gay marriage thing. he said back in his day the gays were only thinking about wild sex parties, and today they were talking about settling down and getting married

	08-09-2005 06:44									#23
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If Arnie signs it, I wonder if Phelps will go after the GOVERNATOR

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I'd pay to see that fight.

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quote: Originally posted by Kuciwalker If Arnie signs it, I wonder if Phelps will go after the GOVERNATOR

I guarantee that he will. This Phelps character is C R A Z Y... He makes Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell look like mild mannered moderates.

	08-09-2005 07:23									#26
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Sorry to rain on your parade, but Arnie said he was going to veto the bill.

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quote: Originally posted by Jack_www Sorry to rain on your parade, but Arnie said he was going to veto the bill.

doesn't matter

rain is good

what comes after rain

RAINBOW

THE SYMBOL OF GAYITY!

RAINING ON PARADE =BRINGING ON THE GAYPOCALYPSE

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Are you the child of Sava and MrFun?

	08-09-2005 09:35									#29
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Arnie has to veto it. He's in the low 30s on approval rating, is getting beat by all the major potential Democrat candidates in current opinion polls, and has so alienated Dems and Independents that he has no hope of bringing them back into the fold. Hell, a recent poll had over 60% now saying they wouldn't recall Davis, if they had it to do all over again.

If he signed the bill, he'd get no credit for it and would then alienate the Republican right, which he desperately needs to hold on to if he wants any shot in 2006.

Looks like it will be Governor Angelides.

	08-09-2005 15:38									#30
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Ah, ochlocracy in action:

quote: SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) - Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger said he would veto a bill to legalize same-sex marriage ``out of respect for the will of the people,'' drawing heated criticism from gay rights supporters and cheers from conservative groups. The bill, narrowly passed by lawmakers in the past week, would make California the first state to legalize same-sex marriage through its legislature. In Massachusetts, recognition of gay marriages came through a court ruling. But Schwarzenegger said Wednesday the legislation would conflict with the intent of voters when they approved an initiative five years ago that prevents California from recognizing same-sex marriages performed in other states or countries. ``We cannot have a system where the people vote and the Legislature derails that vote,'' the governor's press secretary, Margita Thompson, said in a statement.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlate...5263724,00.html

Yes, because voters' intentions never change. And presumably, the 'people' don't include any gay and lesbian voters.


In any case, Ms. Thompson's statement would seem to indicate that she has never heard of the problems encountered by those seeking interracial marriages, and is indeed also ignorant of the history of Civil Rights' legislation in the United States.

Amnesia- the modern American ailment.