11-09-2005 22:55									#61
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1.1 Imran - Martin Brodeur - G (NJ)
1.2 123john321 - Sidney Crosby - C (PIT)
1.3 dejon - Miikka Kiprusoff - G (CGY)
1.4 KrazyHorse - Jarome Iginla - RW (CGY)
1.5 Guynemer - Marty Turco - G (DAL)
1.6 Kontiki - Markus Naslund - LW (VAN)
1.7 notyoueither - Evgeni Nabokov - G (SJ)
1.8 Emperor Fabulous
1.9 joncha
1.10 Ben Kenobi
1.11 Sava
1.12 Asher

Last edited by notyoueither on 11-09-2005 at 23:17

	11-09-2005 23:32									#62
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To keep the rhythm Fab has to pick a forward.

	11-09-2005 23:39									#63
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quote: Originally posted by notyoueither To keep the rhythm Fab has to pick a forward.

hehe, well, I might break the rhythm, depending who is available and when, I most likely will be taking a forward... but you never know... IT ALL DEPENDS!!!

	12-09-2005 00:10									#64
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Yeah well the 10-12 spots can afford to pick differently because they will get their 2nd rounds pick fairly soon.

	12-09-2005 00:11									#65
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Yep, Yep. Quick turnaround allows you to take a forward and get the goalie you want, because your 2nd round pick will come soon.

	12-09-2005 01:01									#66
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui Btw, Guy picked the other guy I was looking at for the 1st pick .

Hail to the victors, baby.



While Marty was goalie at Michigan, during my undergraduate years, his record with the lead going into the third period was something on the order of 103-0-2. Unreal.

	12-09-2005 01:05									#67
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quote: Originally posted by Guynemer While Marty was goalie at Michigan, during my undergraduate years, his record with the lead going into the third period was something on the order of 103-0-2. Unreal.

That's what I consider to be a "stupid" stat in sports.

There are always dumb sports statistics that I see.

Like... ZOMFG WHEN MARIO LEMIEUX SCORE 8 GOALS THE PENGUINS ARE UNDEFEATED!!!!

WHEN WALTER PAYTON RUNS FOR 300 YARDS TEH BARES ARE 110-0

WEHN BABE RUTH HITS 10 HOME RUNS TEH YANKEES WIN

well yes, when you have a good goalie and you lead going into the third period, chance are, you will have a good record

I got an awesome sports stat. When one team scores more points than the other team, they are undefeated!

	12-09-2005 01:06									#68
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True, having a good record isn't that surprising.

But never losing a single game in the third period, in 105 chances? That is remarkable.

	12-09-2005 01:07									#69
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Um... Sava... that's not something I'd consider a stupid stat. Being undefeated in 105 games where you have the lead going into the 3rd period is a pretty significant stat. It means you have to get the team earlier, because you won't come back on them.

	12-09-2005 01:08									#70
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quote: Originally posted by Guynemer True, having a good record isn't that surprising. But never losing a single game in the third period, in 105 chances? That is remarkable.

It depends how big a lead, too. If most of those leads were by more than 3 goals, I'm not going to be too impressed.

	12-09-2005 01:09									#71
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Unless you think ALL of the leads were by 3 or more goals, then it's irrelvant, because there are bound to be a number of leads of only 1 goal and they never scored.

	12-09-2005 01:10									#72
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui Unless you think ALL of the leads were by 3 or more goals, then it's irrelvant, because there are bound to be a number of leads of only 1 goal and they never scored.

well without an individual breakdown, it's a meaningless and stupid stat

	12-09-2005 01:13									#73
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No, it actually isn't. It's quite impressive.

Even if ALL the leads were by 3 goals, that would indicate that you have to score early, or else you'll never win.

	12-09-2005 01:16									#74
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Imran... that stat by itself is meaningless...

it needs to be compared with other stats, like say, his 3 period save percentage and goals against average...





I guess it's people like you that come up with stupid stats, eh?

	12-09-2005 01:16									#75
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It seems impressive, and it probably is, but you can't tell unless you have something to compare with.

In general, and especially in recent years, hockey is a sport where it is difficult to come back in the last frame - as compared to something like basketball.

I suspect we would find similarly impressive stats for most decent NHL goalies, especially those with defensive teams.

	12-09-2005 01:18									#76
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And that stat, by itself, would mean something, dejon. It would mean that in hockey games, you have to score early, because coming back from behind is very hard and with Turco in Michigan, it's impossible.

	12-09-2005 01:38									#77
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui And that stat, by itself, would mean something, dejon. It would mean that in hockey games, you have to score early, because coming back from behind is very hard and with Turco in Michigan, it's impossible.

I have to disagree with the bold. Numbers can paint any picture you want, especially in isolation. If we gathered the same stat for other goalies we would then see if it is practically the same for everyone, the same for any defensive team, or the same for all Michagan goalies because that state is almost Canadian it's so hockey-mad.

No one is saying that Turco isn't a steller goalie - I very nearly picked him myself.

	12-09-2005 01:41									#78
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If it was the same for everyone else, then that'd indicate in the sport of hockey as a whole, comebacks in the 3rd period are impossible. I think the 0 in the loss column for leading in the 3rd period is very significant by itself in showing the possibility of coming back on him in that same situation. After all it's a sample size of 105, which is fairly decent.

	12-09-2005 02:07									#79
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Someone whack Emperor Fabulous, will ya?

	12-09-2005 03:06									#80
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quote: Originally posted by dejon Someone whack Emperor Fabulous, will ya?

yeah really! goin' on 4hrs 10 mins!!!!

	12-09-2005 03:46									#81
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1.1 Imran - Martin Brodeur - G (NJ)
1.2 123john321 - Sidney Crosby - C (PIT)
1.3 dejon - Miikka Kiprusoff - G (CGY)
1.4 KrazyHorse - Jarome Iginla - RW (CGY)
1.5 Guynemer - Marty Turco - G (DAL)
1.6 Kontiki - Markus Naslund - LW (VAN)
1.7 notyoueither - Evgeni Nabokov - G (SJ)
1.8 Emperor Fabulous - Martin St. Louis - RW (TB)
1.9 joncha
1.10 Ben Kenobi
1.11 Sava
1.12 Asher

	12-09-2005 04:01									#82
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quote: Originally posted by dejon Someone whack Emperor Fabulous, will ya?

Hey, give a guy a break. I still feel like I got hit with a truck, and its 7 pm.

	12-09-2005 04:04									#83
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joncha!!!!!!!!!!!!

	12-09-2005 04:05									#84
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Sorry, just continuing a fad.

Did my PM help?

	12-09-2005 04:19									#85
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I'm glad i opted out. Food poisoning had me out till just about now.

I'm AMAZED at how many goalies are going in the first round tho.

	12-09-2005 05:10									#86
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1.1 Imran - Martin Brodeur - G (NJ)
1.2 123john321 - Sidney Crosby - C (PIT)
1.3 dejon - Miikka Kiprusoff - G (CGY)
1.4 KrazyHorse - Jarome Iginla - RW (CGY)
1.5 Guynemer - Marty Turco - G (DAL)
1.6 Kontiki - Markus Naslund - LW (VAN)
1.7 notyoueither - Evgeni Nabokov - G (SJ)
1.8 Emperor Fabulous - Martin St. Louis - RW (TB)
1.9 joncha - Joe Thornton - C (BOS)
1.10 Ben Kenobi
1.11 Sava
1.12 Asher

	12-09-2005 05:19									#87
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Ok, the wacky Christian is up .

quote: I'm AMAZED at how many goalies are going in the first round tho.

Why? Scarce resources. I'm shocked at how many are taking position players.

	12-09-2005 05:19									#88
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I'm shocked at people taking centers

I figured I might as well grab Iginla, then take the leavings on goalies

	12-09-2005 05:21									#89
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I'm with Imran on this one. Looks like many are willing to concede the 3 G stats to a select few who'll be able to pick up a second quality starter at this rate.

	12-09-2005 05:21									#90
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Given how the goalies drop off after the first few, and the fact that I get another pick soon, Thornton was a bit of a no-brainer.