11-09-2005 17:56									#1
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Simple, really: Give clues as to the identity of a certain novel, and the person who names it correctly will then give clues about a book of his own choosing.
I shall begin, like so:
This novel featured a small boy named Cedric as its main character. His grandfather is a rather mean nobleman. What is the title of this book's name?

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"Cedric and his mean granpa"

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A la recherche du temps perdu?

	11-09-2005 23:04									#4
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Sans Nobilite = S'Nob=Snob.

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"Little Lord Fauntleroy"

	12-09-2005 13:01									#6
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Lazarus has it correct.

	12-09-2005 13:57									#7
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OK- here we go.

This novel largely focusses on a climbing (in the physical and social senses) kitchen boy . However, the key set-piece covers a battle to the death between a butler and a cook.

	12-09-2005 16:20									#8
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Haven't read it - but maybe Gormenghast?

	12-09-2005 17:35									#9
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quote: Originally posted by shawnmmcc Haven't read it - but maybe Gormenghast?

quote: ....men themselves amaze To win the palm, the oak, or bays..

Andrew Marvell, 'Thoughts in a Garden'.

In plainer words, 'You gots it, baby!'

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Molly - it was one of the first books I could not force myself to finish (I gave up I think in the second or third chapter), that's why I didn't recognize the battle to the death - but it sounded like something I had happily avoided.

I just read the Andrew Marvell poem - and I do not see the connection at all. I am not that good at poetry, so could you spell it out for me. And remember, I am not visually oriented when trying to explain it. Which I can tell from reading it will probably hobble your attempt to explain it to me.


I wish I could focus on obscure SF&F, I only have over 7000 volumes at home. But to be fair.

This short novel focuses on a land of dreams and a journey through them, whose macabre and often bizarre denizens foretell the author's later works, for which he is famous. Finally the gods eject the dreamer from these wonderful lands, sadly marooning him back in reality.

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quote: Originally posted by shawnmmcc I just read the Andrew Marvell poem - and I do not see the connection at all. I am not that good at poetry, so could you spell it out for me. This short novel focuses on a land of dreams and a journey through them, whose macabre and often bizarre denizens foretell the author's later works, for which he is famous. Finally the gods eject the dreamer from these wonderful lands, sadly marooning him back in reality.

I picked only the section of the stanza dealing with the elements relating to winning or success- the symbols being the palm leaves, oak leaves and bay (laurel) leaves.


The plot summary makes me think of Delany's 'The Einstein Intersection'...

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No - older than that. This work is squarely fantasy, and he was dead before Delany was born - but not by much.

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quote: Originally posted by shawnmmcc No - older than that. This work is squarely fantasy, and he was dead before Delany was born - but not by much.

Is it a Lovecraft opus ?

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Yep. Only one fits the bill.

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quote: Originally posted by shawnmmcc Yep. Only one fits the bill.

Darn. Guess who knows his short stories more than his novels.

'Charles Dexter Ward' ?

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No, that would be The Dream Quest of Unknown Kadath by H. P. Lovecraft.

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quote: Originally posted by Stuie No, that would be The Dream Quest of Unknown Kadath by H. P. Lovecraft.

On the tip of my tongue, that one....


Never read it, unfortunately. One of my first purchases from the Book Club in grammar school was a collection of Lovecraft's short stories, but I've never read that novel.

I like some of the films adapted from his short stories too.

Your turn, Stuie...

	13-09-2005 17:08									#18
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Ok, hopefully this meets the "not too obscure" criteria (and I'll stick with the dream motif):

When George dreams, the world changes.

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quote: Originally posted by Stuie Ok, hopefully this meets the "not too obscure" criteria (and I'll stick with the dream motif): When George dreams, the world changes.

Ursula K Le Guin, 'The Lathe of Heaven'.

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Obviously not too obscure then. Have at it, molly!

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Written to pay bills, this proved a storming success, earning a 'princely' sum for the author, its title redolent of Afro-Caribbean music lyrics.

His other hits include a poem about the city where he lived and a long list....

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Don't have a clue.

Stuie.

Molly - Dreamquest... it presages alot of his later works of horror. It makes a kick-butt FRP campaign, the cats are absolutely cool, and since I love Lord Dunsany, it's my favorite work of his. You absolutely must read it.

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quote: Originally posted by shawnmmcc Don't have a clue.

Quitter !


It's Samuel Johnson's 'The History of Rasselas,
Prince of Abissinia', written so that he could afford to pay for his mother's funeral.


It caught the exoticism wave in 18th Century Great Britain and made him a pile of dosh.

	15-09-2005 16:13									#24
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Molly - SF, 20th century fantasy, and most of military history I'll match up with anybody. I am not very well read outside of that, and science. After all, we are on a civ site!

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quote: Originally posted by shawnmmcc Molly - SF, 20th century fantasy, and most of military history I'll match up with anybody. I am not very well read outside of that, and science. After all, we are on a civ site!

Pah!

No excuses!

Remember what Professor Wiesenthal (?) says to Dustin Hoffman's history student in the 'Marathon Man' about Tennyson's 'Locksley Hall' and the study of history...


Okay- this one's easier.

Written by a would be dictator, this factual account (self-aggrandizing too) of wars he commanded in sounds like a stomach made of Indian cloth. He eventually saw the point of it all, but it took a river crossing...

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You know that could almost be Caesar with his Gallic Wars

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quote: Originally posted by laurentius You know that could almost be Caesar with his Gallic Wars

You know you could be right, my decorous Deco devotee.

Yes, Julius Caesar wrote 'The Calico Belly' about a particularly pungent spiced dish....

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Rats - and I had to translate that work for Latin II.
Latin I - learning all the rules and grammar of Latin.
Latin II - learning how an illiterate general broke them.
Latin III - learning how a poet and politician abused them.

Is it a wonder almost nobody takes the bloody language any more?

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quote: Originally posted by shawnmmcc Is it a wonder almost nobody takes the bloody language any more?

I believe it has its own radio programming in Finland...

http://www.yleradio1.fi/nuntii/id101.shtml


as well as Vatican City, of course...

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quote: Originally posted by molly bloom You know you could be right, my decorous Deco devotee. Yes, Julius Caesar wrote 'The Calico Belly' about a particularly pungent spiced dish....

Nihil est -- in vita priore ego imperator Romanus fui.

I really dont read books myself therefore I cannot further participate in this game.