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BEIJING, August 12, 2005 (LifeSiteNews.com) - A Chinese artist who has attached the head of an aborted baby to the body of a bird in the name of art is defending his work after a Swiss gallery removed the piece from a collection of Chinese works on display in Bern.

A visitor to the museum, Adrien de Riedmatten, filed a complaint Monday with Bern's District Attorney, after viewing the controversial piece at the Bern Fine Art Museum. "I want to know where this baby comes from and if it was killed for this work," de Riedmatten said. "We know about the problems of late-term abortions in China and we have the right to ask ourselves questions. We owe a minimum amount of respect to the dead," his complaint stated. "I think it is reasonable to question the ethics of this piece of art."

For his part, 'artist' Xiao Yu claims, "It's precisely because I respect all life that I did this. The bird and the foetus both died because there was something wrong with them. I thought putting them together like this was a way for them to have another life."

Jim Hughes, Vice President of the International Right to Life Federation commented on the display to LifeSiteNews.com saying, "The staggering Chinese abortion rate of over 6.3 million per year or more than 17,000 per day, along with the government sponsored dehumanization of unborn children leads to this kind of horrific display. When children are considered no better than animals then they can be made objects."

Amnesty International and other human rights agencies have detailed shocking actions by Chinese family planning officials such as drowning newborn children when they are discovered born without a license.

Unwilling to have the controversy overshadow the "Mahjong" exhibit of Chinese art, curator Bernhard Fibicher pulled the piece. The museum has planned a symposium for August 22, including artists and ethics experts, to decide if the piece should be re-exhibited.

Yu, who named the piece "Ruan," which is a combination of Chinese letters derived from the names of a variety of animals, added the eyes of a rabbit to the fetal head.

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Opposition to Fetal Head Grafted onto Bird Body “Art” Display a Matter of “Taste,” Claims Legal Expert

BERN, Switzerland, September 2, 2005 (LifeSiteNews.com) – A panel of experts has concluded that there is no reason to exclude a controversial piece of “art” – depicting the head of an unborn baby grafted onto the body of a bird – from a collection of Chinese works on display in a Swiss museum, with one legal expert claiming opposition to the piece is a matter of “taste.”

The piece was removed from the Mahjong art exhibit at the Bern Fine Art Museum after a visitor filed a complaint last month with Bern's District Attorney. “I want to know where this baby comes from and if it was killed for this work,” said Adrien de Riedmatten.

A panel of experts comprised of philosophers, legal experts, theologians, and art historians decided August 22 that there were no ethical or legal grounds for preventing the piece from being displayed.

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what do the "just a bunch of cells" crowds think of this?

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Well, when you get down to it, we are all just a bunch of cells. It just so happens we're also endowed with a modicum of "consciousness", which may be considered a "soul" by some.

Intelligence is still a long way off, though.

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Sorry someone trumped this with the Chinese using prisoners in cosmetics.

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what do the "just a bunch of cells" crowds think of this?

I think if the baby was dead anyway, then go wild.

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That is disgusting. Why the hell was it allowed in the museum in the first place?

Or is that what passes as "art"

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You n00b, Verto! That's be the coolest thing ever in an art museum

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he put rabbit eyes into the face

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I would have used monkey eyes myself.

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why waste the faetus on "art" when you can use it for something good, like face cream

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why waste the faetus on "art" when you can use it for something good, like face cream


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Yu, who named the piece "Ruan," which is a combination of Chinese letters derived from the names of a variety of animals, added the eyes of a rabbit to the fetal head.




I think they lost it there.

Though I am not sure if they ever had it to begin with.

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That is disgusting. Why the hell was it allowed in the museum in the first place?

Or is that what passes as "art"

It would still look better than the iMac G5s...

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what do the "just a bunch of cells" crowds think of this?


Why should we care? I don't see what this has to do with the issue of abortion.

A Reuter's article says the fetus is from the 1960s. So is it all that different than all those mummified Egyptian corpses I see languishing in museums for people to ogle?

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It would still look better than the iMac G5s...


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At least he didn't eat it.

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Disgusting. That's what Civilisation of Death leads to

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That is sick, and this is comming from a pro-choice person...

:vomit:

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That is sick, and this is comming from a pro-choice person...

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Well, what's more sick: killing the unborned child, or exhibiting it?

Anyway, I doubt it comes from pro-choice person.
Do You know what Chineese do with little kittens?

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Do You know what Chineese do with little kittens?

Do they anaesthetise them, cut a hole in their belly, and then with metal hooks pull out their guts to make into a paste, which they then smear on the faces of their children to begin the gutless-kitten-eating ceremony?

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Do they anaesthetise them, cut a hole in their belly, and then with metal hooks pull out their guts to make into a paste, which they then smear on the faces of their children to begin the gutless-kitten-eating ceremony?

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No. They simply - by sort of vacuum machine or by other means - tear the child part by part apart and drag out of its mom's belly.

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To kittens? That's sick.

 
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