17-09-2005 06:02									#1
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when you move a needlejet,no matter how many moves you use,it has half the MP of the total for the return trip,eg a 6-1-8 gets 8 out,8 back.
is there ever a way to get a needle that indicates 6\16 fuel? its as if the unit hovered a partial turn

	17-09-2005 06:21									#2
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Did this happen to you?

I have seen some strange things happen after using the upgrade command, which is why I avoid upgrading jets half way through their mission.

	17-09-2005 17:39									#3
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the jet wasnt upgraded AFAIK

Last edited by Cataphract887 on 17-09-2005 at 19:34

	17-09-2005 19:19									#4
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What's your problem?

8 moves out on turn 1, 8 moves back on turn 2 is completely normal ...

	17-09-2005 19:33									#5
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the jet said 6\16 and was waiting for next turn

as if it had moved 10 already

	17-09-2005 20:07									#6
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Had he been attacked (or autodefended) inbetween your turns?

	17-09-2005 20:27									#7
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no.fully healthy
its a needle not SAM
its in the ocean
it might have had another players unit under it at some point,lke last turn but im not sure.it wasnt a carrier unit in any case

	17-09-2005 21:39									#8
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Is it possible that the preference "Air units return home when reach limit of fuel range" is not checked for the player to whom the needlejet belongs? If so, the unit might be on its second turn, and is about to crash. I tested this possibility using the scenario editor and was able to produce the situation you describe (or at least something similar).

	17-09-2005 21:45									#9
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yes.that would explain it.
it does crash the next turn?
how similar?

danke

	18-09-2005 00:28									#10
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After more testing, I'm not sure whether the situation that I created is what you're looking for. In the scenario editor, I can create a position in which a needlejet is in the middle of the second part of its turn (so its movement status shows "6/20") and the jet is just sitting there. If you then switch to some other faction (while in the middle of the first faction's turn), you can still see the jet, looking as previously described. On your next turn, the jet is gone and has presumably crashed.

However, I can't find any way that the first faction (the one with the jet) can end its turn and still have the jet "hovering". It either returns to a base that's within range or crashes immediately.

So, perhaps you need to look elsewhere for an explanation.

	18-09-2005 01:03									#11
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the faction wasnt switched by scenedit,rather by endturn->savegame
it is most defintly still there when i load the turn up

quote: So, perhaps you need to look elsewhere for an explanation.

yes i will get to the bottom of this

	19-09-2005 11:06									#12
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I've been able to end turn with an aircraft in the air, on its second turn, and it won't crash until either the end of the year or my next turn (not sure which).

Also, sometimes an aircraft, after moving or attacking after its first turn in the air, will show some movement total like 7/16, but next turn it's back to 8/16.