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Look Deity, just forget it. I'm not voting. Its obvious you want to play different settings to me so I think the best thing is that we simply don't play in the same games for a while. You go and play your way, and I'll play mine. I'm really not interested in any other solutions or further haggling.
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<font size=1 face=Arial color=444444>[This message has been edited by deity (edited February 09, 2001).]</font>
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</font><font size=1>Originally posted by Alexander's Horse on 02-08-2001 05:57 PM</font>
Look Deity, just forget it. I'm not voting. Its obvious you want to play different settings to me so I think the best thing is that we simply don't play in the same games for a while. You go and play your way, and I'll play mine. I'm really not interested in any other solutions or further haggling.
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AH... we've had our punch-up in the yard now, please, let's retire to the bar and have a quiet drink. Hydey might even be there 
All of us have a big investment in about half a dozen games that we must conclude. We need to sort this out, mate.
Firstly, let me explain how I operate:
* There is "deity" who play-acts many fantasies and devises many strategies. He uses King Chat as a strategic devise. EG, when you offerred peace and 50 gold his response was a smiley 
Strategically he was happy to leave the situation in a nebulous state....
Onion Isle is another example.
* Then there is Ian Adkins, the real individual who manipulates "deity". That's me.
I really like our "poker" nights AH. You are great company along with finbar, Hydey and Lowang (plus the odd foreigner!) It is an important part of all our lives I think. We are not just bits and bytes, we are REAL relationships, just as important as real mates down the pub Almost as real as Hydey himself 
Let's work it out.
I know I come across a bit patronising; and I'm sorry I'm a bit slow in the game (there are reasons beyond the game) but I think it's all worth it. Our various games are maturing and as you say, we really must finish them.
* Then there is the axe-murderer, but he doesn't know that I know he is me 
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I'm unreal.
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Well you both did seem asleep at the wheel last night.
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Well guys these are my preferences:
* No human city bribing
* No unit bribing
* alliances ok although i can understand a "no alliance" policy, especially being the newest member of the group. I believe alliances should usually conform to the nature of a balance of power rather than a "gang up on the weaker civs"
* With war in SIMULT, as with Hydey, i have little experience with and wouldn't mind trying. Although SIMULT games are much quicker, I am suspicious of certain bugs we have experienced with it.
One particular bug i have noticed is that it is virtually impossible to hot join as the same civilization playd previous to being booted and we must be prepared to reload when this happens.
Regretfully, I won't be as available to play civ with you guys as often as i'd like to in the coming weeks as I am moving house. My new residence has an internet account but i won't be able to use it as much as i'd like to. Hopefully i'll get a couple of nights a week to join you. 
Over the months that i have been playing civ with you guys almost on a nightly basis, i must say i have thoroughly enjoyed myself. Having played Civilization 2 for msny years now (6 or 7) I had always longed to play against other people over the internet. When i first got Multiplayer Civ2 i found gamezone, which frustrated the hell outta me cos nobody would finish a game with me. Finding you guys was the alternative i was looking for; dedecated players who would continue games (albeit several at a time) night after night. 
It would be a shame to see a group schism created because of a difference in preferences over game settings. Overall i like big games with more humans than AI lurking about and 5 or 6 humans is about the perfect amount. I just don't see that the problem is as serious as all that.
In the particular game we were playing that caused the strife my civ was in a fairly hopeless position in a wasteland, I got booted and was unable to rejoin as the Persians...came back as the Romans who were twice as hopeless and with whom i decided to provoke the Persians into invading and conquering. Considering the arguments over the finer points of game preferences, would you consider this cheating?
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-"Can't we all just get along?" :Rodney King, 1992
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</font><font size=1>Originally posted by finbar on 02-10-2001 06:49 AM</font>
As you're perfectly aware, I was overdosing on Peters' Lemonade Icy Poles.
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I think only those of a certain age know the pleasures of the products of the Peter's company.
We found Sunny boys and Razzs in the supermarket a couple of weeks ago. Another winner, but they don't seem to give "frees" anymore.
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Its a shame if Lowang can't play - we almost had him house trained 
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I doubt I'll be able to play in this War4 game. I can only play Australian evenings from about 9pm, which is about 4am in the morning stateside. No flexibility on that I'm afraid.
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Deity, further to our unfinished icq convo last night, my major playing interests at the moment are to fully (underline one)playtest simult and to do so in no bribe games. I would like to get back to the games we have, but I don't see a pressing need for everyone to agree to settings at the moment. You said you have other games to go with. I have the game with Hydey, maybe others. With Lowang gone, might be a good time for us all to take stock.
Let's talk further by icq.
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