20-09-2005 05:03									#31
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I think most of you have unrealistic expectations. GePap has it right; this agreement is a good thing and, frankly, about the best America could hope to get.

	20-09-2005 07:26									#32
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger Dear Leader is not a nutjob. He maybe egotistical or even megalomanical, but he is far from crazy. You are in trouble if you think he's batty.

Kidnapping South Korean actresses because Kim liked their performance in a movie isn't even a little weird? By all reports the guy is at least very excentric and he's likely at least a bit batty just like Saddam was though that doesn't mean he can't be a very effective dictator.

	20-09-2005 07:28									#33
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It probably enhances his effectiveness. Kim won't play it by the rules, and diplomats and statesmen from 'conventional' countries are at loss how to deal with it.

	20-09-2005 09:20									#34
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quote: Originally posted by Tingkai Yeah, that's what I'm thinking, particularly because of the question of what did N. Korea get out of the deal?

1. "Energy assistance"
2. The US selling (?) them light water reactors

	20-09-2005 10:09									#35
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Well now North Korea says it won't rejoin the NPT or allow UN inspections UNTIL the US builds it a light-water reactor.

	20-09-2005 12:22									#36
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Well, at least they're up-front about it instead of skulking around behind diplomatic agreements for eight years before getting caught with their pants down.

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	20-09-2005 13:47									#37
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quote: In exchange, the United States, China, Japan, Russia and South Korea have "stated their willingness" to provide energy assistance to North Korea, as well as promote economic cooperation.

Subsidising the axis of evil?

	20-09-2005 17:58									#38
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quote: Originally posted by Colon It probably enhances his effectiveness. Kim won't play it by the rules, and diplomats and statesmen from 'conventional' countries are at loss how to deal with it.

Not really, everyone is going to talk nicely but basically he's doomed. Its only a matter of time.

And all the indications are he is unhinged - if you were worshipped like a God since childhood you would be too.

	20-09-2005 18:02									#39
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse Not really, everyone is going to talk nicely but basically he's doomed. Its only a matter of time. And all the indications are he is unhinged - if you were worshipped like a God since childhood you would be too.

He'd been doomed far earlier if he'd been rational. His unpredictability is his main weapon.

	20-09-2005 18:59									#40
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even the jungle wanted him dead

	20-09-2005 19:27									#41
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I bet they don't even have nukes

	20-09-2005 19:39									#42
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there is no evidence they have them