21-09-2005 11:58									#1
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Save is here. Got it a while ago, but was doing other things (Laundry for one).

First Impressions:

Euph sent 100 Gold, accepted. We also Accepted it.

Hummm, Pillaged that tile running from Iron to our area. They moved up 2 MI's and 2 Pikes. They now think they have us over a barrel, but they don't know that we are going to ride that Barrel around and back up top.

Sacrifice was good, they left another WC for us to kill. But I'm going to put a twist on this little party....

Here is the save. Golden Bear, Please e-mail Paddy to have you put on the e-mailing list.

E_T

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	21-09-2005 12:24									#2
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Well, first off, lets Pillage back....

I was keeping the Stack where it was, to help prevent any fast movers from crossing the River at that point and having a streight shot at IT. But now that they have slowmovers in Theater, we need a different approach.....

Activating Tosses Cats & Dogs from "Stack" and moving 7. Bombards to the 4 (Felinicity 1) and....

Takes out Improvements. No more Back Road....

Activating Tosses Cows from "stack" and moving same.
Bombards to the 7 (Felinicity 2) and...

Wifffff..... Oh Well... 3rd Cat is on it's way but will be a few turns....

Horseman "Gonna get some" (2/4) At Iron, moves 7 and Pillages the tile.

I was hoping for a clean sweep, but they now have much less access to the Iron and only 1 Irrigated tile for growth....

Attacks in a moment.

E_T

	21-09-2005 12:34									#3
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It's a good thing that I DID decide to move "Run, Run as fast as you can" last turn, because he's going to attack that unnamed AM WC (4/4).

Moving 1 and Attacking 4 and....


Still 3/3 and no promotion.

Now for the Iron. We don't [b]CURRENTLY[b] have a road to the Iron, but we can still build a Colony. BWorker 036 Sacrifices himself for the cause and creates a Colony on the Iron.

With the tile that they Pillaged and the one the Horse did, they can't get to the Iron with a fast mover, in one turn.

Now, the Rest of the AM units, they need to stay away from the Iron for a few turns. So, the Units that are on the Iron are moved 7 (on Hills and between AM slowmovers and Iron).

That's only 4 Units (2 Spear, 2 Bowmen), so we move Horseman "Retribution" from Stack to join them.

Rest of the "Stack" moves us with Cats and forts.

Mostly Clean up afterwards.

E_T

	21-09-2005 13:04									#4
	We [b]WILL[/b] have Iron next turn... Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

Thank you Goddess for the stupidity of our opponents.

For we will have Iron, the very next turn.

How, you may say, well, I move the 3 workers that are currently on the Horses to the "backdoor" of the Iron. They will road nest turn and the road will be completed immediately.

Because of AM pillaging that tile, they might or might not think that we can get it that soon. But they didn't count on my leaving it undefended, either.

3 workers at Horses move 7-4-8 to the Iron 6 spot. Will road next turn and they will be finished in that one turn, so AM can't do Cr@p about it....

Because they can't reach it, at this time.

3 Workers who were "saved" last turn, move 6. They will road the hills and the road will be finished same turn the settler gets there and we will finally have the Iron City built.

E_T

	21-09-2005 13:20									#5
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more clean up

New Cat, in Icelandia, named Tosses Insults, moves 9-8-8.

New Horseman, in Babylon, remaned Horseman Venom, moves to join "stack" and Forts.

New Horseman, in IT, remaned Horseman So You wanna?, moves to join "stack" and forts

Spear in IT forts.

Warrior in Kurra moves to IT.

"small stack" - Horseman Attrition and Bowman Skrobism, move 6-9-8 (where original stack was and forts (horse does). This Researve now moves to be closer to "stack". The Spearmen move to IT for next turn's Upgrade.

New Warrior, in Potamia, moves 6, headed to Babylon and Upgrade.

New Warrior, in GoT, moves towards Babylon, for Upgrade.

Settler moves 8-9-8. Headed for Iron via backside...

BWorker 454 moves 4.

2 Workers, near Icelandia, move 9, will chop forest next turn.

Domestics next.

E_T

	21-09-2005 13:43									#6
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Babylon, Building Horse (1 of 2). NC to WF.
IT, building Horse (1 of 2), NC to WF.
Iclandia, Building Catapult (1 of 4), WF changed to 18.
GoT, building Warrior (1 of 1), NC to WF.
Potamia, building Warrior (1 of 1), NC to WF.

Note, as long as we don't get a new Tech, after Iron is connected, then we can continue to build what is in the current build. They won't be "Auto-upgraded" to the updated builds. So, we will have lots of Spearmen and Warriors to upgrade very soon.

Kurra, building Settler (1 of ??6??). WF changed to 7-8-20.
Hookah, building settler (3 of 4). WF changed to 1-7-16-19.

We are still weak to Am. We are still #2 in GNP, MFG & Prod (the 3 most important stats).

Still no one with Engineering. Still 3 civs with Mono (AM, BoH and DR).

We have 461 Gold in Ttreasury, with +51 GPT.

In case anyone wants to know, it would cost us 53 Gold to build embassy with Euphorica, at this point in time.

Saving game....

E_T

	21-09-2005 19:16									#7
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keep up the good work.

"Tosses Insults" it's a shame but that might offend Krill and Ormuzd. If they are SO offended by our horses names maybe we should change those to things like:
"We bring you peace - Horseman"
"We offer you cake - Horseman"
"Would you like a spot of tea - Horseman"

	21-09-2005 20:58									#8
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Skrobism!

"Be our friends - Horseman"
"tremble, tremble - Horseman"
"insignificant - Horseman"
"worst demo team ever 1 - Horseman"
"worst demo team ever 2 - Horseman"
hmm.

incompentent
incapable
slow-witted

It could be fun!

	21-09-2005 21:03									#9
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Careful with the slow-witted names. They might think we are insulting them instead of ourselves. They seem incapable of following the line of thought that brought us to rename these.

"Three-legged - Horseman"
"The old grey mare - Horseman"
"No. Let ME grab my ankles - Horseman"

	21-09-2005 21:27									#10
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"Your sister chases - Horseman"
"Your family looks like - Horseman"
"You're dumber than - Horseman"

and of course:

"Your head is up the a$$ of a - Horseman"

Oh well. That would get us banned for sure. Maybe when we have to retire we can use them for unit names.

	22-09-2005 04:39									#11
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E_T - superb playing.

Had a chance to look at the save today for the first time. Looking good unless AM have some real surprises up their sleeve.

The other option I was thinking of was having the settler settle right on the iron hills. Then defend the living daylights out of it. But that would take a couple more turns. The sooner we have iron connected and some spears and warriors upgraded, the sooner we can breathe easire.

And may Inanna bless Euphorica and their gift of gold. All hail snoopy.

	22-09-2005 04:53									#12
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Yes, I liked the idea of the settler on the iron hill. Pay for walls and then barracks and try to bleed AM down.

Of course when that army comes back in a couple of turns we could be up the creek...

I could really use the Euphorica screen shot and unit counts if they agree and we are going to do it.

Maybe we could start naming every other unit something like:

"Euphorica volunteer legion 1 - horseman"

"Euphorica seekers of justice 2 - horseman"

At least show some respect to our fallen friends.

GB

	22-09-2005 06:18									#13
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quote: Originally posted by E_T Settler moves 8-9-8. Headed for Iron via backside...

Looks like we may have been on the same wavelength afterall. I assumed you were going to rebuild Plains of Ashur.

Either move is OK with me. Connecting the iron asap (ie next turn) and doing some upgrades is key.)

Wonder if we can get any cash from LB now that Lord Nuke is in charge????

	22-09-2005 07:17									#14
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LN had seriously NOT answered any messages. If anybody has rapport, let it flow. I only get -----. Except that he "wanted to be present" when we negotiate with AM. Negotiate with AM with a knife... I think.

Dunno what to do about it. At least 1889 talked to us.

	22-09-2005 10:07									#15
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I'm planning on settling at Iron 9, It's too close to Felinicaity, if on the Iron.

E_T

	22-09-2005 16:01									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Golden Bear LN had seriously NOT answered any messages. If anybody has rapport, let it flow. I only get -----. Except that he "wanted to be present" when we negotiate with AM. Negotiate with AM with a knife... I think. Dunno what to do about it. At least 1889 talked to us.

Lord Nuclear is a huge pain in the asssss.

He volunteers to do x, then disappears, volunteers to do y then disappears for six months , volunteers to do z, then disappears for 6 months.......

Are you starting to see a pattern here?

Set up whatever meeting you need to set up and invite him but I wouldn't plan on getting anything productive out of him, or him ever showing up for anything.

	22-09-2005 19:04									#17
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LB might be skipped soon.

E_T