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*sigh* Since you went to so much trouble Deity, who's a clever boy with the formatting, my views are:
Bribe Human city: NO
Bribe Ai cities and units: YES
Bribe Human Units: NO
Alliances: Agree with finbar - only when number of players is even.
Simult war: Yes please.
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*bump*
finbar... your moment has arrived....
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Well Deity and I had a long icq chat and I think the way forward is consensus rather than a vote. We just play the settings everyone can agree on and leave it at that.
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<center><table width=80%><tr><td><font color=000080 face="Verdana" size=2><font size="1">quote:
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</font><font size=1>Originally posted by finbar on 02-18-2001 07:01 AM</font>
+blinks awake+
Mmm? What? Vote? Well, Labor, of course.
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Yes, that is the only vote that counts 
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<center><table width=80%><tr><td><font color=000080 face="Verdana" size=2><font size="1">quote:
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AHorse thinks the way forward is consensus because he sees it as a way of sabotaging a true democratic vote 
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That's a cheap shot Deity - I just don't think a vote like this going to settle anything. There is now a clear division between players who want to play simult and those who want turn based or a hybrid of it.
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Well on unit bribe I think its stupid but in games you are in Deity, I'm happy to put up with it. Other games, or any new games, as I stated, I don't play it unless people insist on it. Its simply cr#p, even more so in simult.
My point about consensus is that with a bit of give and take we should be able to sort out compromises on most things.
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<font size=1 face=Arial color=444444>[This message has been edited by Alexander's Horse (edited February 18, 2001).]</font>
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Castiglion Fiorentino, Italy
Jan 1970
time: 06:12
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Can I put it off any longer? Do I want to? Is this causing me to lose sleep?
Nuh. Anyway, even if it's only to complete the nice chart at the top of this thread, I vote that unit bribing be allowed.
I don't subscribe to the theory that the Civ game mirrors real life, that a single unit represents vast numbers, and vast numbers of troops couldn't, realistically, be bribed. Civ has its roots in real life and that's the extent of it. I differentiate between unit bribe and city bribe mainly on the practical basis that the latter opens the door to lazy play.
Oh, and I vote to allow bribing of AI units and cities only because the AI can and will bribe our units and cities. We have no control over that factor.
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Pish tosh.
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14-02-2001 15:15
I don't think we shall ever play again 
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