26-06-2000 19:52									#1
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I'm wondering if I'm not the only one frustrated with multiplayer smacx games with 3 or more players. I've been playing smac since the release date, but I've only finished one PBEM game with 3 or more players. The first one I started with 7 players in not even to MY 2140 yet.

How many people would be interested in a 1 on 1 tournament. I think that if your opponent can't take a turn for over a week that you should be declared the winner. What do you guys think of that?

	26-06-2000 20:27									#2
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I would be especially interested if we could arrange some IP times.

	27-06-2000 09:33									#3
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I would be interested. Of the total of 7 games in the ACT/AXT tournament I am/was in only two had a turn per day on a regular basis, so I hope I would have more luck with a two-player game. The only two-player game I played so far (DT4 with Tau Ceti) had an average of ~6 turns per day, so I think those games should move a lot faster.

	27-06-2000 09:35									#4
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I would be game for some 1v1 or maybe even 1v1v1 (although that invites ganging up)... it seems like with four players there is always one slow one that holds everything back.

Email is emjaycue@iname.com

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	27-06-2000 03:42									#5
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How about a short elimination tournament? I would like to start with 8 players. We could start with 16 if we have enough.

I can play IP also, but I imagine that some will not be able to. We will allow either IP or PBEM. Also I would like to allow the players to be able to negotiate the settings, generate their own maps etc... Then they will just report the winner and I will set up the next round.

I would like to make it transcend if we can get 8 to play at that level. What level is everyone interested in? We might be able to start up two 8 player tournaments.

	27-06-2000 11:06									#6
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I like both the idea of an elimination tournament and that of playing on Transcend. I suspect that the rules should be the same as for Tau Ceti's tournaments (the random map/planet variation), but the settings as decided by the tournament players. In order to avoid conflicts however, I propose that there be a "standard" setting, from which the players are free to deviate by mutual agreement, thus reducing the set up time

	28-06-2000 09:04									#7
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I like the idea of a 1 v 1 elimination tourney and am willing to play on trancend.

	28-06-2000 09:06									#8
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Whoe! I'm not a settler anymore!

	29-06-2000 09:48									#9
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Looking good so far. We have 6 now.

	01-07-2000 03:21									#10
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sure, TI works for me...

	01-07-2000 20:27									#11
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What is TI?

	02-07-2000 01:47									#12
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uhh trancend ironman, sign me up

	02-07-2000 01:50									#13
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A few things about IP games that you should know. EVERYTHING BREAKS!!!!

[*]Fungal and Tectonic missiles don't work.
[*]Units can magically trasform into other units. (My impact foil turned into a sea formers, my probe foil turned into a scout rover).
[*]Sometimes after you take an AI base, the next turn it magically reverts back to AI control and kicks your units out. This is really annoying.
[*]Loads of other problems that are too numerous to name.
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IP games are great because of their speed, but if your going to play really seriously I would recommend against it. There are too many bugs. I just figured you guys should know before you start any IP games up.

BustaMike

	02-07-2000 02:40									#14
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BustaMike,

PBEM games are even more buggy than IP games. I play IP a lot and I rarely have any trouble.

	04-07-2000 07:19									#15
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This sounds good, am free for a whole month..so ip would be a good start, then maybe by pbem to finish.. count me in.

	06-07-2000 09:06									#16
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We need one more. Give me your email addresses so I can start the schedule as soon as the next person signs up.

I guess if people can't agree on the settings we can go with default settings. I don't really care for them, but that will be something to start with.

	10-07-2000 02:28									#17
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I'll play, but only PBEM.

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	10-07-2000 19:16									#18
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Ok, that makes 8.

I set up the games by a random process. For the first round...

Lord Vaderzz-Garth Vader
emjaycue-Adam_Smith
Q_tip1976-oniron
Nicolas-Paul

My email address is dkk19@csufresno.edu

I don't have everyone elses. Post your email addresses here as needed. If there is someone who has changed their mind then we will have to get another person to play.
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	10-07-2000 19:28									#19
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My email is paulvdb@home.nl. As far as I can see we all have our adresses in our profiles, so you should be able to get everyone's email address.

	11-07-2000 09:15									#20
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My prefered Email address for SMACing is clanmastab@aol.com.

	15-07-2000 22:50									#21
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My e-mail is jp.baptiste@sk.sympatico.ca
Garth...vader you should get hold of me to set up a ip date? Hmmnn....that sounded funny? anyways...am ready to play?

	17-07-2000 20:06									#22
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Have all the first round games started yet? If not we need to get more players.

	18-07-2000 04:47									#23
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Haven't heard any word from Garth yet? so please contact me!! ASAP? I have some time on my evil hands? Plus I would like to see if he was any good??hehe.....

	18-07-2000 19:36									#24
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Garth has not posted for a while so we may have to get another player

	18-07-2000 23:13									#25
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I e-mailed Nicolas yesterday to talk about the game settings, but he hasn't replied yet.

	19-07-2000 01:10									#26
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Oniron and I have emailed about game settings etc. but haven't actually started yet.

	19-07-2000 18:50									#27
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Emjay and I have started already.

So everyone is still interested except for maybe Garth and Nicolas. If they don't show any continued interest soon we can find two more.
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	20-07-2000 01:50									#28
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I'd be quite interested in a PBEM game. I'm afraid I would probably be cannon fodder, since I have no significant MP experience, and also I'm getting back into the game after a six month break. Still, I play TI level and win consistently. Anyone willing to give me a good thrashing?
Oh, and I only have SMAC 4.0, I don't know if this is a problem.

	20-07-2000 06:29									#29
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Oniron,

I seem to be having problems emailing to your skypro.be account as well. Basically the game options you specified are fine and I prefer to play on small maps but am willing to play on larger ones if you feel strongly. My top two choices for factions are Drones and Beleivers. I hope we can get this email thing straitened out.

	20-07-2000 10:18									#30
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Simpson, SMAC is ok with me. We will be glad to have an additional player.

Oniron, I'm willing to set up a random gave, and check it whenever. Emjay and I didn't do that, but if anybody else want's that it's ok. BTW, that is a good idea about posting the turns on a thread.
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