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XWaste
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of passionpop
Aug 2000 time: 05:13
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2131 on to Chairman big_canuk
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jschwab
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2131 sent to Morgan
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Styx
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Amsterdam
Sep 2000 time: 05:13
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Didn,t knew I was on in this game, I can,t remember when I did myself subscribe for it.
Anyway I looked at these settings:
As Drones you get only 4 techs by this accelerated start. The resource fields are rotten formed (yes, always with accelerated but...) no minerals almost at each square with solar and farm.
The SP that are already occupied are disbalancing perhaps even more, PK has the WP for instance where Drones have the Virtual which is pretty worthless for a good start since there are no nodes build in Drone citys and that will not happen soon also.
That means there is no direct profit possible.
Then there is the problem of the landmarks eventually related to SP. Drones have none so far I can see. Its very unlikely that all factions are starting without landmarks.
Main problem seemes however that I have only 1 former which is very unlikely with +2 on industry.
So question: Are you sure this setup is a balanced situation?
I don,t think it is sound to join with these settings as Drones.
Styx
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Googlie
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Commanding Officer, CRYPTEIA
Apr 1999 time: 21:13
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Styx:
I had e-mailed you on the invite to join OKFist II. You hadn't replied, but we took a flier and sent the turn to you anyway
The players were all those affected by the 4 week disappearance of Gopher (you were in one of his games, and he was a player in OKFist I) and, to a lesser extent, Deimos (disappeared from OKFist I). We wanted to get a game going quickly for these four weeks with a bunch of reliable players nwho could turn quickly.
I agree on the uselessness of the early SP's allocated in the warp start - and the drones, the lack of formers, the somewhat stupid decisions the AI had made for us in the non-played years (OKF One started in 2181, so the AI had 80 years of mismanagement)
That was one of the features we were facing as a game limitation - how to prosper and ultimately win in spite of the awful judgement exhibited by the AI in the intervening years (much like when you take over an ACT or AXT game from a dropped out player and say "OMIGAWD, what on earth has he been doing").
And you were the Drones as I tried to get us playing factions that we weren't playing on our respective stalled games.
We understand if you don't want to continue given these conditions - if so, just bow out in this thread and RedFred will send to one of our standby replacements - but I hope you'll continue, as to some of the OKFist original crowd (including me) you are a different face that we don't encounter in the games we are in.
Googlie
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Styx
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Amsterdam
Sep 2000 time: 05:13
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Ok, the usual comments. I just have to live with it that most don,t care at all about these things.
Ok I will send the turn but remember I consider it as a lost position already and its more a training thingy for me.
But now another problem, who am I supposed to sent the turn, I don,t have any emailadres yet.
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Styx
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Amsterdam
Sep 2000 time: 05:13
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Yes, I have the adres now but on second thoughts I decided not to waste my time on this game. Swapping faction wouldn,t change the problem of Drones are not set in balance.
Imagine I have only 5 techs available its very unlikely that I am able to get some tech from trade in time.
Special problem is that I just have 1 former. This has forced me to chose for centauri ecology which made a badly needed social engeneering tech unavailable for 26 turns.
Then after this I am forced to build at least 2 formers instead of other things to come to normal setup values for accelerated.
In practice it will mean that I will fall behind at least 2x3 former turns before I can start to work on a landtile.
Since there are no minerals+energy at a same square available to work it means either I drop behind in research or can,t make use of the special faction ability of +2 industry.
I believe the start is very important. Special when its accelerated and it will have a deep impact on the gameflow. Thats why I hate this kind of accelerated setup without CMN.
To solve the problem I reloaded and erased Drones from the game.
I don,t want an replacement player getting frustrated after months of playing finding himself in a hopeless position wondering where things went wrong. turn sent.
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Styx
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Amsterdam
Sep 2000 time: 05:13
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Oh well, then this special setup is more important then the individual opinion after all isn,t it?
I wasn,t involved with the setup, be asured I would not have agreed to such settings to start regardless I would have know the outcome of the accelerated tombola.
So I don,t see what throwing towels has to do with it.
If you want a challenge with me then make a good setup.
Maybe I don,t have skills enough to judge it but in case you get Adam in the game as Drones and he will do poor it only prooves I was right from start.
Its a setup trap for Drones.
Have fun with the game.
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XWaste
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of passionpop
Aug 2000 time: 05:13
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2132 onto big_canuk
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jschwab
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I have passed teh turn for Oktober Fist II on to Red...
If you want a restart, by all means lets do it.
JSchwab
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