15-12-2000 02:51									#91
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Okay. Heading out soon... to Googlie.

	15-12-2000 04:27									#92
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2117 to Misotu

very uneventful turn (moved Independent Scout 1 tile)

	15-12-2000 04:41									#93
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2117 to RedFred.

	15-12-2000 05:26									#94
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I have taken a look at the save RedFred sent me and well... this one cannot be salvaged.

It is suffering from an even more extreme version of the bug that struck the Chiron Winter game I set up at ACOL. Alinestra Covelia is on Transcend difficulty. Googlie and Misotu are on Librarian (fewer drones and 24 SE change cost); apparently RedFred is then on 'Sub-Citizen' (-8 SE change cost and probably 7 non-drones, though I am unable to confirm that as he does not have any bases that size yet). These settings are to my knowledge permanent, at least there is no obvious way of changing them once the game is underway.

So the 'best' solution I can offer is a restart, if you are still interested. The problem can apparently be solved by checking an additional flag in the scenario editor. Up to you whether you want the same map or a new one.

Sorry about it all. I really wish I knew what caused this. It is especially worrying if it means that all the games I have started lately suffer from the bug. I will have to check that tonight.

[This message has been edited by Tau Ceti (edited December 14, 2000).]

	15-12-2000 06:36									#95
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Thanks for getting back to me so quickly Tau.

"Subcitizen" Prophet RedFred votes for a restart. I was using this as an experimental game anyhow. I learned a pile of stuff already that I will do differently next game.

I have no strong preference as far as maps. I didn't explore all that far so I don't have a problem with the same map if it means less work for Tau Ceti.

	15-12-2000 09:18									#96
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You know, I *thought* it was odd that Ali, as the Hive, was getting drone problems with her second citizen while I was getting no drones in a size 2 city as UoP !

I just put it down to not understanding how the Hive play in the early days - I've never played them.

I agree we should re-start - we're not that far in and the turn rate has been pretty good so far. Thanks to Tau for offering to do the work ...

	16-12-2000 00:04									#97
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A restart has my vote too.

Thanks, TC

G.

	16-12-2000 02:25									#98
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What's this? Restart the game, with all people equal? And jettison my only excuse for performing badly???

Well... all right then.

I abstain from voting. And demand a hand recount of all the votes (old joke I know).

	16-12-2000 13:11									#99
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see:

http://apolyton.net/forums/Forum27/HTML/000326.html?0

Googlie

	17-12-2000 10:10									#100
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Fixed and restarted game sent to AC (at the yahoo address). I used the same map to save time.

	19-12-2000 04:11									#101
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Woah... okay. Sorry about the delay, but I've been semiconscious and inconvenienced, it being Christmas etc.

I'll get the save game sent off asap.

	19-12-2000 20:07									#102
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turn received and turned over to Misotu

	19-12-2000 21:24									#103
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2102 off to RedFred ...

	20-12-2000 10:24									#104
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Okay we are back in the saddle. I have just sent the game off to Alinestra. The prophet is enjoying his first planet pearls feast.

I must say that the first turn was much less stressful for me this time.

	20-12-2000 05:29									#105
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2103 to Academician Misotu

	20-12-2000 12:20									#106
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I'll have no internet access until around noon PST on Thursday (en route to Palm Springs) - I apologize in advance for any delays this causes to our game

Googlie

	20-12-2000 19:12									#107
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No problem Googlie - 2103 off to the Prophet ...

	21-12-2000 10:26									#108
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I am hoping to fit in a couple more turns before heading to the Interior for Christmas. I'll be heading up sometime between Friday and Sunday. My sister has a high speed cable hookup but she is having some trouble with her PC right now. So although the possibility of playing when I am up there exists, it can't be counted on.

I am coming back on Boxing Day. So the maximum I'll be out of commission is four days.

I had a thought that something was wrong with my start so I sent a .sav off to Tau. Just paraniod I guess; everything is fine.

Off to Alinestra.

	21-12-2000 03:31									#109
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SALINE ORAL CAVITÉ

Don't ask...

On to Googlie.

	21-12-2000 23:45									#110
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"Use a Salt-Based Mouthwash" ?

	22-12-2000 01:11									#111
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...or, indeed, toothpaste.

*Smack!*

Okay, okay. Enough of the anagramania.

Le Israel Vacation

	22-12-2000 01:14									#112
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double post
[This message has been edited by Alinestra Covelia (edited December 21, 2000).]

	23-12-2000 07:25									#113
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A Recent Saliva Oil?



On to Misotu

G.

	23-12-2000 17:02									#114
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Right - there are no moderators around, so this is precisely the right time to shamelessly and incestuously plug my SMAC fiction thread and its two new updates! It's like buses, you see... you wait two whole months for an update, and then three come along at once in as many days. Sheesh.

PS If you're a mod and you see this, please look the other way. There's a liberally greased palm in it for you if you do.
[This message has been edited by Alinestra Covelia (edited December 23, 2000).]

	25-12-2000 10:56									#115
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I am heading out the door. Misotu still has the game so I won't be able to play until the 26th or 27th.

Have a good Christmas!

	27-12-2000 03:18									#116
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Sorry about the delay - Christmas can really get in the way of my SMAC playing Anyway, 2104 is off to RedFred. Season's Greetings n' all that ...

	27-12-2000 23:00									#117
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No need to apologise. The days around Christmas are always tough.

Off to Alinestra. How come she gets all the attention?

Here is my ultra-short story about a couple of professionals who are unenthusiastic about being used as a bank robber's human shield to help his getaway:

"Omit us!"
"Oi! Leggo!"
Dr. freed.

	28-12-2000 05:12									#118
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Most accomplished RedFred. Now ... back to the game ...

In the Hive's case, alas!, oriental vice leads to evil, nasal, erotica. (Rather like Allie's web page, in fact ) The Chairman plays a Satanic, evil role in the region I call Soviet Arena.

Alas! inactive role for other factions could mean Sheng-Ji's election as a rival!!! Elected for Life, that is To say nothing of the damage to cavalier Aliens.

This anti-social leaver must be stopped! Like some eviler, asocial ant, with his vile, east cant, Liar Yang is dangerous as a flock of volatile canaries.

There's only one thing to be done with the coarse villain: Eat him!

(In a desperate bid for attention, I have decided to drop the pathetically under-lettered Misotu for a brand new nom de plume.)

Yours sincerely
Alastair Violence


With apologies to my very good Pact Sister and #1 Hive Fan. I tried to make more appropriate words like "fraternity", "society", "community" and "greater good", really I did.

	28-12-2000 23:12									#119
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Mis (or the very Scottish Alastair):

If one can ROFLOL and LMAO simultaneously, I just did

Brilliant

(Pretty neat too, RedFred. Almost as much fun as playing the game)

Turn sent to Misotu

	28-12-2000 23:32									#120
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2105 despatched post-haste to Red Fred

- asocial 'n' relative Mis