07-05-2001 18:11									#1
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So, this is the game I'm creating for original SMAC. Thus far we have players in here being:
Twister,
SITS,
Radagast,
Solver.
Currently inviting more . Please state your preferrences here, as we need some different games in the career, I think. Let's tallk what we want. Waiting on opinions. Also, I wonder if newbies want to play higher than Thinker .
I'll probably agree to whatever you decide. And, I'll ask Keygen to me the Moderator of this game.
And the subject is name of this game, also .

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	07-05-2001 18:45									#2
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Some options I would like.

I'll try transend
No Random Events
Maybe extra units
Huge map

None of the these are a must have for me

The only faction I don't want to play is Miriam

	07-05-2001 19:06									#3
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I'm game for transend.

okay to No Random
Is Blind Research default?
Huge map is cool

How about random factions?

Twister

	07-05-2001 19:16									#4
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I like idea of blind research but I'm not too keen on random factions but it is something I could live with!

	07-05-2001 19:34									#5
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The Random faction was just an Idea... I havn't played any of the SMAX factions, so don't know what they are like.

Twister.

	07-05-2001 19:40									#6
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I'll ask them to give more units.
Random factions is possible, but you don't have SMAX, so OK. Yes, Blind research is default.

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	07-05-2001 19:51									#7
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I have SMAX... just got it a couple weeks ago.. just havn't had time to play :-(

Twister

	07-05-2001 20:41									#8
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I too have SMAX but haven't invested much time to it. So that would be a possibility...

	07-05-2001 20:47									#9
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Nice option. This would simply give us more faction choice, and I also used SMAX more, forgot SMAC now also. If you all have SMAX, it can be the choice then.

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	08-05-2001 09:51									#10
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Okay, so SMAX it is... how about the other options? Talent, map, etc
No Unity Survy
No Unity Scattering
No Random Events
Blind Research
Look First

Factions? Random?

Twister

	07-05-2001 22:18									#11
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If Radagast has SMAX, too. Perhaps Radnom. Wait a bit...

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	08-05-2001 01:42									#12
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Sorry, I do not have SMAX.

But don't wait, you must go on without me...leave me behind here...just leave me with a grenade so when our pursuers come....

	08-05-2001 09:50									#13
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Twisters ideas sound good to me but since I've run out of grenades we will have to stick to SMAC.

	08-05-2001 10:31									#14
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If you insist so much.

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	08-05-2001 15:30									#15
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Is it too late to join in on this? I have both SMAC and SMAX (prefer Smax but will play either)-- The settings suggested sound good but I will play any settings. Half the fun of the game is discovering some of the different ways to play it- (Blind research really changes things) Random factions are fine but I do have some preferences if we get to choose (the reason I like Smax is the greater faction choice). My email is sharris41@hotmail.com .




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	08-05-2001 16:23									#16
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I got one more SMAXer on the way. Better drop Radagst, and get in another game, for SMAC classics only. Sorry, Rad, but let's make this one SMAX then, if you don't mind.
What's your best result vs. the AI, I mean what's the highest AI level you've ever beaten.

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	08-05-2001 16:32									#17
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I have beaten the AI on transcend. (I hope you were talking to me LOL)

Oh and if this is a SMax game I think that there should be no aliens under human control. That is a pretty standard rule elsewhere but again I will play with whatever the group decides. Even under AI control it can be totally unbalancing when a battle ogre comes knocking at your base on turn 10 LOL. I think most MP games eliminate the aliens altogether.
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[This message has been edited by cbn (edited May 08, 2001).]

	08-05-2001 17:54									#18
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Cbn,
Exactly. Humans are never allowed to be aliens in PBEMs.

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	08-05-2001 18:49									#19
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Okay... looks like we are almost ready to go... what else do you need Solver?

Twister

	08-05-2001 19:02									#20
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With my 1000th post I announce:
First, I wait for someone else to look in here.
Next, as always, everyone post your preferred options.

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	08-05-2001 19:08									#21
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Well, you have my options already.

and congrats on the 1000th post!

	08-05-2001 20:14									#23
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My only big question is on whether it will be random factions (this is how I play single-player)or if we get to choose ( I have many favorites) . I will play any settings at all but if we are talking PREFERENCES well here they are:


1. A large map so its not an immediate slugfest but not extra huge-- will it be a randomly generated map ?? thats my preference since its more fun to discover terrain rather than play known territory

2. Anything goes on rainfall, ocean coverage etc but extra fungus/native life can be fun (I call Cult LOL)-

3. LEVEL -- any
4. Blind research ? Sure might be fun
5. Unity scattering ? This means no pods scattered right?? I never played that way before but am willing-- it does lessen the value of early exploration -- In Smax I found that one of the things that compensated for the Cults deficiencies was the ability to explore fast and pop pods-- However pod pops can be unbalancing and add to the luck factor

6.Unity Survey -- OFF-- You should only see that which you explore
7. Look First -- Don't matter
8. Extra units --probably no-- you must be very careful to balance this-- 9. extra techs -- again no unless there is great care taken in balancing this


These are just my thoughts.If I end up with Miriam (my least favorite) on an arid island all alone-- so be it. I just want to play.


One thing we might want to explore. In another PBEM game I am in, we spent a couple of hours playing direct connection before switching back to PBEM. In 2 hours we played 17 turns each and got past most of the boring stuff where you really have few decisions to make. Its just a thought since i found, when I started my very first PBEM a few weeks back,that the early turns were pretty dull. You spend time zipping, loading etc for about 30 seconds of playtime LOL. Again just a suggestion as a way to get the game quickly into the interesting stuff. Even just a single session to get us into the good stuff might be good.

Once the game is set up we can assess if people are interested. I only have done direct play once but it is very easy . If there is some interest we could compare schedules and pick a time. Solver-- I am assuming that direct connection is permitted in your ratings scheme.

	08-05-2001 20:21									#24
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Random civs is fun. But I hate Miriam, probably will play here, if I must. Would like directed research and pods on.
I think we could try for Average map.
Extra units, anyone?
CBN, we'll rate you.

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	08-05-2001 20:22									#25
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I don't mind direct connections, as long as all the scores for M.Y. xxx0 are posted to the Ratings thread...

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	08-05-2001 20:28									#26
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So, I still like Random Factions.

Extra Units... I don't care for it
Average map is fine.

I don't have alot of spare time online, so I can' do the IP game.

Solver...not much of a chance you will get Miriam. 12 Factions to get.. how many of us are there?

Twister

	08-05-2001 20:40									#27
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Although it depends on the number of Human players I would like to see a bigger map. I feel it just gives a bit more time to develop.

I'm ok with the options that cbn suggested except for the map, extra units and look first. I would prefer to look first and I think the extra units can work if we make it simple like 3 extra scouts just to speed up exploration.

	08-05-2001 20:43									#28
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I've never played with extra units, but I don't see a problem with 3 extra scouts.

I like look first.

	08-05-2001 22:12									#29
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I would be up for a PBEM game, preferably with these conditions:

SMACX (I like the faction choices better when you have all 14)
Transcend
Huge, random map
No random events
Do or die
abundant native life

And I'll play any faction.

I'm new to the PBEM world, but have played lots of transcend games vs. the AI.

	08-05-2001 22:32									#30
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Faustus is whom I waited for, but man, only 12 factions. If you control Marr or H'Minee, you're a winner immediately. Otheriwse, I like your proposal. Currently only waiting on our moderator.

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