15-07-1999 08:55									#1
	Comments from Brian Reynolds about The List Increase Your PM Length

Hi Yin,

Received the Civ3 list! Thanks very much to you and everyone participating. I like your "if just one idea" spirit, and believe me if that's the direction you're approaching it from you're going to be very happy.

My suggestion as to the best way to proceed from here is to continue to maintain the "big list" as a "living document"... rather than starting a "new" list, continue discussing, elaborating, etc. But of course you guys are volunteers working for free because you love the game system, so by all means take it in whatever direction you think best.

For example the "ICS" commentary points out a very valid criticism of the system, but lacks an analysis of (different) ways to avoid the problem.

Some of the best suggestions are the ones which marry a cool concept from history (e.g. "You should include the development of the Stirrup" with a thought out game effect ("Which gives all your horse units +1 to their attack strength" -- which is vastly more likely to provoke thought than either "You should include the Stirrup" or "You should have some techs that increase a units' combat factors" by itself.

I know it's tough to be patient, but we're still putting together a prototype and it will be a while before we're ready to do even preliminary alpha/beta testing. But it's definitely great to see where the fans think the game should go.

Feel free to share this message w/ the other participants!

--Brian Reynolds
Civilization III Designer
FIRAXIS Games
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	15-07-1999 09:39									#2
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Free? What's this free talk? I want money, dammit! But I'll be willing to settle for guaranteed beta-tester status.

	15-07-1999 16:08									#3
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Hrm.. a bit of a tunaround.. I was under the impression that Firaxis wanted ideas but NOT specific implementations.

	15-07-1999 16:24									#4
	Enter the AD-FREE zone

NLT,

I guess we have some work to do!

	15-07-1999 17:55									#5
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I just want apology from Brian Reynolds about his rash CTP comments earlier, when CTP was just developing.

	15-07-1999 18:35									#6
	Got spare money?

What was so rash about them? Comparing it to somebody other than LucasArts doing a Star Wars sequel is an exact parallel. And he didn't neccesarily say it was going to be bad.

Not that it didn't turn out to be mediocre anyway, which doesn't pass my game-buying muster.

	16-07-1999 09:12									#7
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**rereads the Brian post**

What is the ICS commentary?
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	19-07-1999 01:48									#8
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Reread 'City/City Improvements'!

	22-07-1999 10:27									#9
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"I like your "if just one idea" spirit, and believe me if that's the direction you're approaching it from you're going to be very happy." - BR

Does that mean Brian only found one idea in the list to his liking?