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Jon Miller
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hey Yinshining
I have some iimportant questions too
are you one body with two heads (a yin head and a shining head)?
or are you a duality like God is a trinity?
if this last is not the case what are you?
Jon Miller, perhaps available for emergency summaries (I type real slow though)
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yin26
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This space reserved for Darkstar.
Apr 1999 time: 14:14
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Theben,
I obviously share your concerns. One of the reasons the last list was delayed so long was that some people just bailed w/o saying anything. So I begged and some others really stepped up and helped.
I'm basically judging from the "END OF AUGUST DEADLINE" thread I posted. But looking at that, I can see some real trouble. As it happens, I simply won't have time to do summaries thanks to a nasty project at work, so we have some options:
1) Just send what we do have and let the other threads go until version 3, by which time we can hopefully find new TMs.
2) Beg people to do some summaries and send whatever we can get done.
Anyway, your stuff will definitely be sent, even if other threads have to wait for version 3. What do you think?
Jon,
Right now I'm one guy with one very hung over head. I don't know if you've ever had Korean soju, but it's 25%. Not too bad, I guess, but when you drink it like water, you pretty much send yourself to hell...
The Shining part of YinShining is a friend of mine who helped out a lot behind the scenes for version 1. And realizing I tried to do too much on my own last time (and the quality of the list went down a bit because of that), I wanted to get more people involved in a significant way this time.
Speaking of, you stepped in the line of fire: Slow typers are welcome, too! 
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Harel
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Ramat Hasharon, Israel
May 1999 time: 05:14
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Yin, could you pls explain how will the new forums work?
Will we post on the old forums ideas, and only edit the summaries ( which will appear alone on the new forums ), or maybe we will have fixed threads on the new forums and place our new ideas there?
Maybe it will work on the same idea at those forums, only that we will try to keep it more orderly? ( no people starting silly threads on there own ).
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I know my word processor has a master document feature, by which you can keep separate chapters in separate files and link them to a master file. I don't know how MS Word implements it (I am 99.44% sure it does) it could help in several ways.
If you could do your compilation that way the chapters would only need to have text and simple formatting. Pagination, indexing, headers, footers etc are controlled in the master. Graphics like the globes could be done in separate title page files, too (plus header/footer control if MS Word master doc doesn't control). My backup word processor WordPerfect Suite 8 (came on computer) can't handle those graphics and some of the other things MS Word does, despite "import" feature. (Hah!) Those of us who don't have (and can't stand) MS Word could then access individual chapter files with WordPad for easier reading.
Also, when I did use MS Word on the computer at work it took so long to load 182 pages and repaginate (which MS Word does on loading because of the printer driver, and occasionally when you do a GO TO page#) that I would give up in disgust.
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Shining1
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Christchurch, New Zealand
Apr 1999 time: 05:14
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Yeah, Sept1 is a good place to start. Once we have at least a few summaries to start working on, we'll have a much better idea of what needs to be done.
Fortunately, I've got a week or two of holidays starting from tommorrow, so I should be around the forums to see what turns up.
Brian wants list version2 to be a work in progress rather than a seperate entity, so it will probably take some work to sort out the new ideas from the old. Anything the Thread masters do to help with this (especially the established threadmasters from the original list) will be extremely useful.
Personally, my view is that there should be a list version3.0, but that it should be a more long term affair, over say the next 6 months. If we can get around to convincing gamespot or a similar zine to give us a plug, this may help.
I will email Brian about this, and find out what his views are if at all possible. If not, then version 2.0 should be the last list for a long while.
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Harel
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Ramat Hasharon, Israel
May 1999 time: 05:14
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Shining, I have to disagree!
Either people want the next list to be many months from now, or never to exist at all: a final list of a sort, when we only update the threads on the new, orderly forums.
This is just plain wrong! It will kill the great movement we have here. When we finished the first list, it was just a week before Yin told us to start originizing for the second list. It kept things moving. Every time there is no "dead-line" in the forums, people don't post at all.
The difference is between 5 posts an hour, to 5 posts a day, at best. I know, since I try to check apolyton several times a day.
When I am summarizing, like right now, I am booming with new ideas. I haven't posted anything new in my economy thread for weeks, but when I started doing the summary I had a dozen new improvements to people ideas and new suggestions.
My point is, that I think that when we do finish this list, we should jump right up and go for the third. With the new forums that will keep the summarizes all nice and spiffy, we could really push things forward. And people just keeping joining in the forums, brining new blood.
Therefor, I think a fine date for the third list would be the start of the new millenium , three months from now. My guess is, this is the time that Firaxis will start moving forward with the civ III project, creating a new web-page and starting to publish it's ideas and info.
My 2.54649 cents worth.
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Ecce Homo
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Stockholm, Sweden
Apr 1999 time: 06:14
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My new MISCELLANEOUS summary is soon finished, but I wonder one thing:
Many of the early suggestions should fit better into other threads. Should I post them in these threads? Should I include them in my summary?
Thank you in advance.
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The best ideas are those that can be improved.
Ecce Homo
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Ecce Homo
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Stockholm, Sweden
Apr 1999 time: 06:14
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I came to think of the GAME ATMOSPHERE thread. Is it disbanded or just temporarily vacant?
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The best ideas are those that can be improved.
Ecce Homo
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