18-07-2000 05:03									#1
	Playing as the Aliens in Extended game Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

What are the advantages/disadvantages to playing as the aliens in the extended game? As far as i can see, you have no one to bother you for a VERY long time, and you can grow to your fitting. But problems arise in that you lose out in the fact that you have to research every tech, uless you can nab the Great Library. The great library could be an incredibly useful wonder in a scenario like this. Others like Leo's Workshop would be completely useless since you would have no uprgrading of units until after the wonder had expired.

What are some other thoughts on this?

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	18-07-2000 06:19									#2
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Well, i started a game up, and I noticed a few things.

[*] Trade is hard to come by. The terrain is mostly Scrubland, which I relate to Plains. That leaves only one trade with raods. The grasses give decent food, but you're in the same boat for trade. Looking for key specials (Monolith [Wasteland] gives 5 trade, so that's a must!) and both of the Scrublands specials (Ruins and Regiment Ivy) both give one extra trade, so that can help out.

[*] Due to the lack of trade, I ran into cash-flow problems early on. I tried to race for AS to ease the pain, but the German's edged me out. Now I am faced with a shortage of gold, so I have to keep my taxes high, thus taking away from the much needed science.

[*] As i said before, the Great library was a great help, but it also slowed my tech advancement. I think it might be a fair trade, though, since I am only sacrificing a few turns in all, and I am gaining techs I would have had to research anyways.

[*] Trade routes are a waste of resources. I am gaining only 1-2 trade extra from a route, and usually between only 10-20 gold/sci beakers bonus per route! I did use caravans to help rush-build wonders, but that was the extent of their worth.

Anyone else care to take up a game and see if there is a loop hole to play through?

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	18-07-2000 07:05									#3
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I have played successfully as the aliens, since their situation and my play style go very well together. My advice (for king/huge world):

First, build settlers, and one or two flyers
(just to scout out the land). There is no need to build a large standing army, just one large enough for martial law and the occasional goody hut gone bad. Since your neighbors won't be attacking anytime soon, there is no point to a military build up now. Set taxes to 50/50 science/taxes from the start; the minor decrease in science is more than made up by the large numbers of settlers you'll put out in short order.

Go straight to monarchy, of course, and stay there until you have thirty or more cities, using the one-food-support settlers to build roads everywhere and generally improve the land. Build caravans for wonders only. As you near the thirty mark, start building marketplaces in all of your cities, in preparation for the move to republic.

Once you are ready (for me this just after Mike's and JSB have been built--eases the transition), change to republic and shift taxes to 40/40/20 sci/tax/lux. By this time, your empire should be sufficiently spread out and built up that those caravans will provide good bonuses and trade--so start cranking them out! As marketplace-fired WLTxDs die down, start building banks; when banks die down, build stock exchanges. This should give you a sizable percentage of cities with double-digit pops, and more than enough science generated per turn.

It's what works for me.

	18-07-2000 07:53									#4
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Those are great tips Mad Monk. While i was playing this out, I found a couple other things.

[*] Eternal Fog with a mine gives you 1 food, 2 shield, 2 trade. This is a good compromise, especially in a high-grasses area, where food won't be a problem.

[*] Anomoly (5T) and Seabees(3T) are good trade specials, and the Seabees are rather plentiful (in coastal areas, obviously).

I started using the "Poor man's Corporation" aka building barracks and selling them right away to keep up my money while letting my cash flow run in the red so that i could keep the Sci rates high. I recently switched into Republic, so there shouldn't be too many more problems like that.

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	18-07-2000 08:03									#5
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This is cool!
I've been thinking about playing as the aliens. But the lack of interaction with other Civs that you have for most of the game has kept me from it. Glad to hear that it poses a challenge of it's own. I'll try it for my next game.
Keep us informed about your progress.

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	18-07-2000 08:59									#6
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Okay, some stats before I go to bed

[*]3 turns ago, a window popped up declaring my Brr'til the most advanced in the world. Now this is clearly a case of the "Player goes slow, AI goes slower" form of research we have all seen in Civ2 games.

[*] Two turns after recieveing that notice, I finished Darwins Voyage, which should put me a bit further into the lead. I am currently researching Medecine, but this has been long passed over; I've already researched The Corporation. The only reason i researched it this time was because it was the only one they would let me choose!

[*] I have 17 cities. Since moving over to republic, I've been sticking with a temple-library-marketplace scheme. If the city has good sci, then I'll pop a university down. Advances are currently coming at 6 turns/advance.

I now see that a SSC (which i built) is a good way to go. Using that coupled with GL and Darwin's, and you have a decent way to keep up in science. I should have switched over to Republic much sooner. but I'll hone my skills for the rest of this game. It's currently 1816, and I don't see a 2020 landing date by the end of this game.

I can't wait to hear how you game is going to come out, Hasdrubal

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	19-07-2000 01:33									#7
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How about play OCC as alien in TOT .

	19-07-2000 02:31									#8
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	20-07-2000 01:38									#9
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I think I found a problem with playing as the aliens. I can't research Bioplasmas or anything beyond that. Since the alien can't research fusion power this makes getting Bioplasmas and anything beyond that impossible. VERY ANNOYING! I had to fiddle with the rules to change this. Are you suposed to steal Fusion Power? Grrr!

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	20-07-2000 02:21									#10
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Well, I won. Barely, I might add. Sadly I was only playing it on Prince, but the ending was more than difficult. The AI came at me with every unit they had. I hadn't bothered to upgrade my units in my cities, so I suffered horribly losses. I managed to hold on and grab Transcendence in the year 2032 AD. I assume there is no time limit for extended game? A couple more notes:

[*] Don't forget to get those Chon-ee's out of your cities with better defensive units. Also, in the time between your ship launch and landing, build walls in your cities.SAM's would be a good idea too, as the AI in my game built tons of Stealth Bombers and Drakons. They were perticularly devistating.

[*] Build as many cities as possible. Use up every good square inch of land there is. It will all come in to be useful.

[*] Make sure you can build a fast spaceship in a short amount of time. This is where all those cities will come in handy.

I am going to try this again... later. It's a real test on your nerves at the end game. I really got used to not having to deal with the AI... man I hate them!

But I have to ask again about Fusion Power. Is it possible to steal this? I think I see why it's notaccessible to the Aliens (slower spaceship), but is it purposefully not supposed to let them get transcendence?

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	21-07-2000 08:58									#11
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Aside from that blip, I have decided to take up this challenge again.

If anyone would care to join me, I saved a game at 4000 BC. I have it here for download:
http://testoftimedownlaods.homestea...es/pi_b4000.zip

Once I finish it up I'll post a log (Advances/cities/wonders).

Oh, one more thing. Since I had such a pain in the butt before, I am trying this on Prince level again, so that's what the game is saved as. It might be a bit easy for some of you... but hey, tough luck

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	22-07-2000 09:31									#12
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Out of curiosity, I tried Sand Monkey's file with a challenge twist. Initially it was going to be confined to three cities, but I ended up finding an Advanced Tribe (Wentuckit) in 190AD and kept it, plus no sea travel (although I did end up building a transporter to pick up my colonists and marines after landing), no spies (later this needed to be changed re. Fusion Power!), and no war.

I ended up with the space landing in 1866, and got Transcendance in 1925, but there were some slip ups along the way - I forgot to road my rivers after Bridge Building, and there was unnecessary use of Entertainers at times. I ended up producing far too many caravans / freight for my needs. I went for the Eiffel Tower on a whim, which was a waste, as it went obsolete before it could be of use (if this Wonder is ever of any use! ). Furthermore, it took me until about Future Tech' 15 before I realised that I needed to steal Fusion Power.

Anyway, the files are available in a zipped package for 1AD, 1000AD, 1500AD, 1700AD, 1854AD, and 1923AD in case anyone's interested: www.users.bigpond.com/c.hills/SandMnkyToT.zip

I was essentially able to use the OCC style approach quite well, despite not having 1,000+ science flasks in the science city. I did find trade paid off over time, with routes yielding 3x15 arrows per city.

The easier level allowed me to not get too concerned with happiness problems, with most cities kept happy with 20% luxuries + Market Place / Bank / Stock Exchange + Colosseum.

Goodie huts gave me six technologies, while The Great Library gave fourteen.

	22-07-2000 08:15									#13
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Cam -

How did you like the starting island? This was the best terrain I have ever seen on an alien world. I didn't even check it before saving - I just started the game and saved right away. I'm currently at 800 AD, so I still have some time ahead of me. Surprisingly, I am still keeping an accurate log. I got into republic in 630 ad, which is about 1200 years earlier than my other game

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	22-07-2000 09:14									#14
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Sand Monkey,

It's a great landmass!

I've just finished my second attempt - this time sticking by my 'three cities rule' (four reloads were needed due to Advanced Tribes). I got to The Republic in 170AD.

This was a much better structured game than the first (details above), however having one less city certainly does slow things down.

Spaceship launch in 1865 for a 1879 landing, but the other tribes weren't even close. It took me some time to realise I had to go down and give one of them about twenty technologies so that they could research Fusion Power. I then established an embassy, waited for about ten turns for them (the Babylonians as it happens) to research it, and then I stole it in 1927. My spy got caught and an 'International Incident' happened (spending quite some time out of Democracy). Transcendance in 1950. I still think there's quite a lot of opportunity to better this.

On this occasion I only got four tech's from the Great Library and five from huts.

I did break one of my rules, in that one ocean square was unexposed, and I built a ship to pop out and uncover it. Otherwise, no offshore continent exploring, sea travel (other than to pick up bonus Colonists and Marines), or war (other than Babylon declaring war on me as I got caught stealing Fusion Power).

	22-07-2000 10:25									#15
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Jeez you play fast!!

I'm still only at 1620. I'm researching Electronics, so I am light-years ahead of my other game. I got into Democracy in 1230 AD, so now I am getting discoveries every 4 turns. I don't think I am that far ahead of the AI, but I am sure I have a decent lead. I'll post my whole log when I am finished. Hah I slacked off on my log. I was going to put each city as I founded it, but I stopped after like the 5th city (I have 16 cities!)

I did a little bit of math, and the way I figure it, I am about 80-90 turns in front of my first game. I'd say that's some improvement

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	23-07-2000 09:31									#17
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Well, I used a SSC in both games. The difference was in this game I got into Republic probably close to 100 turns earlier than in my other game. This allowed me to get advance 2-3 turns faster for each one. That adds up quickly after a while

small update: It's 1750 and I just got Flight. I have about 5 more advances until i can build Apollo.

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	23-07-2000 04:03									#18
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Well, here's my log. I finished 130 years/turns (they're the same in this case) ahead of my first game. As I said in an earlier post, I slacked off on writing when i founded all my cities. I finished with 21 cities.

4000 BC – Onochi founded
3500 BC – Alphabet
3050 BC – Ceremonial Burial
2400 BC – Bronze Working
1850 BC – Delchi founded
1750 BC – Code of Laws
1300 BC – Monarchy
1250 BC – New Government: Monarchy
900 BC – Writing
625 BC – Currency
450 BC – Onochi: Colossus
350 BC – Farichi founded
325 BC – Trade
175 BC – Masonry
1 AD – Mysticism
60 AD – Mathematics
120 AD – Wentucket founded
140 AD – Astronomy
210 AD – Pottery
280 AD – Literacy
290 AD – Pii Tachi founded
320 AD – Khuchucha founded
340 AD – Onochi: Copernicus’ Observatory
340 AD – Construction
390 AD – Philosophy
390 AD – University
440 AD – Theory of Gravity
470 AD – Delchi: Great Library
500 AD - Republic
510 AD – Seafaring (GL)
560 AD – Banking
630 AD – New Government: Republic
640 AD – Iron Working (GL)
670 AD – Warrior Code
720 AD – Engineering (GL)
720 AD – Bridge Building (GL)
750 AD – Horseback Riding
810 AD – Medicine
840 AD – Map Making (GL)
870 AD – The Wheel
900 AD – Navigation (Hut)
950 AD – Economics
990 AD – Sanitation (GL)
1010 AD – Polytheism
1060 AD – Feudalism
1120 AD – Chemistry
1130 AD – Chivalry (GL)
1170 AD – Invention
1170 AD – Onochi: Shakespeare’s Theater
1220 AD – Democracy
1230 AD – New Government: Democracy
1270 AD – Monotheism (GL)
1280 AD – Gunpowder
1290 AD – Delchi: Adam Smith’s Trading Company
1330 AD – Explosives
1370 AD – Physics (GL)
1380 AD – Steam Engine
1420 AD – Onochi: Isaac Newton’s College
1430 AD – Railroad
1480 AD – Atomic Theory
1505 AD – Leadership
1520 AD – Magnetism (GL)
1530 AD – Industrialization
1550 AD – Metallurgy
1570 AD – Corporation
1570 AD – Wentucket: Darwin’s Voyage
1570 AD – Conscription (Darwin’s)
1570 AD – Refining (Darwin’s)
1590 AD – Combustion
1615 AD – Electricity
1635 AD – Electronics
1650 AD – Steel
1670 AD – Automobile
1685 AD – Mass Production
1705 AD – Nuclear Fission
1720 AD – Nuclear Power
1735 AD – Tactics
1750 AD – Flight
1756 AD – Machine Tools
1764 AD – Radio
1770 AD – Advanced Flight
1778 AD – Rocketry
1784 AD – Laser
1790 AD – Miniaturization
1796 AD – Computers
1802 AD – Mobile Warfare
1808 AD – Space Flight
1814 AD – Plastics
1820 AD – Khuchucha: Hoover Dam
1822 AD – Superconductor
1828 AD – Robotics
1832 AD – Onochi: Apollo Program
1834 AD – Stealth
1842 AD – Recycling
1850 AD – Genetic Engineering
1853 AD – Refrigeration
1857 AD – Environmentalism
1860 AD – Combined Arms
1865 AD – Spaceship launched!
1878 AD – Spaceship landed!
1878 AD – Future Tech 1
1881 AD – Ultrastring Theory
1884 AD – Quantum Transport
1887 AD – Robotic Warfare
1887 AD – Romans: Labor Union + Communism
1889 AD – steal Fusion Power
1890 AD – Cybernetics
1893 AD – Bioplasmas
1896 AD – Hyperentropics
1900 AD – Reality Engineering
1902 AD – Transcendence

I got 10 techs from the Great Library, and as far as I can remember, only one from a hut. A major difference in this game was the fact that I had a positive cash flow for a long time. This kept me from dipping in the Capitalization pool. Also, from the time I launched my ship until two turns before the landing, I set it at 10% Science, and I was making 500 gold per turn. this helped when I had to rush build units and such later on. All in all it was a prettty easy win. I had about 90% of defenses in place by the time the ship landed, in preparation for an AI onslaught that never happened. I hope some more people other than Cam and myself will give this a try. It really helps get your game in focus without worrying about the AI, but also forces you to depend (almost) entirealy upon yourself.


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	10-08-2000 09:56									#20
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Sorry to drag this back up, but last night I decided to try this one again. I'll post up a saved game, incase anyone wants to try it. I tried it once more on Prince, but was only able to improve my landing by 1 turn. I suppose the three week hiatus took its toll on my playing, not to mention I limited myself to 13 cties until the end when i went wafare happy on an AI civ.

3750 BC – Alphabet
3300 BC – Ceremonial Burial
2700 BC – Bronze Working
2050 BC – Code of Laws
1400 BC – Monarchy
1250 BC – New Government: Monarchy
825 BC – Currency
500 BC – Trade
350 BC – Trega: Colossus
225 BC – Writing
25 BC – Literacy
60 AD – Republic
70 AD – New Government: Republic
110 AD – Horseback Riding
160 AD – Masonry
210 AD – Mysticism
260 AD – Philosophy
260 AD – Mathematics
310 AD – Oltreg: Great Library
320 AD – Astronomy
320 AD – Engineering (GL)
320 AD – Map Making (GL)
340 AD – Pottery (GL)
340 AD – Construction (GL)
410 AD – Bridge Building (GL)
410 AD – Invention (GL)
450 AD – Seafaring (GL)
460 AD – The Wheel (GL)
510 AD – University
520 AD – Iron Working (GL)
610 AD – Polytheism
650 AD – Trega: Copernicus’ Observatory
700 AD – Warrior Code
760 AD – Navigation
820 AD – Theory of Gravity
860 AD – Gunpowder (GL)
880 AD – Medicine
940 AD – Feudalism
1000 AD – Banking
1060 AD – Democracy
1070 AD – New Government: Democracy
1100 AD – Trega: Isaac Newton’s College
1120 AD – Chemistry
1170 AD – Metallurgy
1190 AD – Trega: Shakespeare’s Theater
1210 AD – Chivalry
1240 AD – Monotheism
1280 AD – Conscription
1320 AD – Economics
1360 AD – Explosives
1400 AD – Leadership
1440 AD – Physics
1480 AD – Sanitation
1510 AD – Steam Engine
1530 AD – Railroad
1550 AD – Oltreg: Adam Smith’s Trading Company
1550 AD – Atomic Theory
1570 AD – Tactics
1580 AD – Intreg: Michelangelo’s Chapel
1590 AD – Industrialization
1610 AD – The Corporation
1625 AD – Magnetism
1645 AD – Genetic Engineering
1665 AD – Electricity
1670 AD – Trega: Darwin’s Voyage
1670 AD – Refining (DW)
1670 AD – Electronics (DW)
1690 AD – Steel
1705 AD – Combustion
1725 AD – Refrigeration
1745 AD – Automobile
1754 AD – Mass Production
1762 AD – Nuclear Fission
1762 AD – Intreg: Hoover Dam
1766 AD – Nuclear Power
1772 AD – Machine Tools
1778 AD – Miniaturization
1784 AD – Computers
1790 AD – Flight
1798 AD – Radio
1806 AD – Advanced Flight
1812 AD – The Laser
1818 AD – Rocketry
1826 AD – Space Flight
1834 AD – Plastics
1840 AD – Intreg: Apollo Program
1840 AD – Amphibious Warfare
1848 AD – Superconductor
1853 AD – Mobile Warfare
1861 AD – Spaceship Launched!
1864 AD – Robotics
1867 AD – Stealth
1874 AD – Spaceship Landed!
1876 AD – Recycling
1879 AD – Ultrastring Theory
1882 AD – Quantum Transport
1885 AD – Robotic Warfare
1888 AD – Cybernetics
1889 AD – Steal Fusion Power
1891 AD – Telka Sumara
1893 AD – Bioplasmas
1895 AD – Hyperentropics
1898 AD – Reality Engineering
1901 AD - Transcendence

10 techs from Great Library, 1 from Philosophy, and 2 from Darwin's Voyage. I onlyt actually made contact with one AI civ, the Russians, and I conquered about 5 or 6 of their cities. It wasn't necesary to, but I felt like it

If anyone wants to try it out, you can download it from here. Again, it's on prince level, which I think is a happy median to start at. Cam obviously had no problem winning here, and it's probably too easy for experienced players.

	11-08-2000 09:58									#21
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Yeah, I'm a loser. My girlfriend has camp and I don't start football camp until Monday, so I have nothing to do but play ToT I gave this ONE MORE shot on Prince, and needless to say I was shocked with my outcome. It wasn't a very good map by any means, not much by the way of grasses, but I made it work well to my advantage. I had a TON of techs every three turns in the middle of the game, and I managed to get into Democracy by 510 AD. I'll post the log.

3250 BC – Alphabet
2350 BC – Ceremonial Burial
1750 BC – Bronze Working
1400 BC – Code of Laws
1100 BC – Monarchy
1050 BC – New Government: Monarchy
825 BC – Writing
625 BC – Currency
600 BC – Tilani: Colossus
500 BC – Trade
350 BC – Masonry
300 BC – Construction (hut)
250 BC – Mysticism
150 BC – Mathematics
50 BC – Astronomy
30 AD – Literacy
90 AD – Republic
110 AD – New Government: Republic
150 AD – Philosophy
150 AD – University
190 AD – Theory of Gravity
240 AD – Banking
250 AD – Tilani: Copernicus’ Observatory
270 AD – Epo: Great Library
280 AD – Horseback Riding
310 AD – Medicine
360 AD – The Wheel
400 AD – Engineering
440 AD – Invention
440 AD – Pottery (GL)
460 AD – Seafaring (GL)
490 AD – Democracy
490 AD – Iron Working (GL)
510 AD – New Government: Democracy
550 AD – Warrior Code
590 AD – Economics
630 AD – Bridge Building
630 AD – Tilani: Isaac Newton’s College
660 AD – Navigation
670 AD – Polytheism (GL)
700 AD – Feudalism
730 AD – Chemistry
760 AD – Chivalry
780 AD – Gunpowder
810 AD – Explosives
840 AD – Physics
870 AD – Epo: Adam Smith’s Trading Company
870 AD – Steam Engine
900 AD – Railroad
930 AD – Sanitation
960 AD – Metallurgy
990 AD – Industrialization
1010 AD – The Corporation
1040 AD – Magnetism
1060 AD – Leadership
1060 AD – Map Making (GL)
1070 AD – Epo: Darwin’s Voyage
1070 AD – Electricity
1070 AD – Refining
1090 AD – Combustion
1120 AD – Electronics
1150 AD – Steel
1180 AD – Automobile
1210 AD – Mass Production
1240 AD – Atomic Theory
1250 AD – Nuclear Fission
1290 AD – Nuclear Power
1330 AD – Flight
1370 AD – Conscription
1410 AD – Radio
1460 AD – Tactics
1505 AD – Machine Tools
1525 AD – Epo: Hoover Dam
1525 AD – Advanced Flight
1550 AD – Miniaturization
1570 AD – Computers
1590 AD – Laser
1605 AD – Rocketry
1625 AD – Space Flight
1640 AD – Plastics
1650 AD – Monotheism
1665 AD – Superconductor
1680 AD – Mobile Warfare
1695 AD – Tilani: Apollo Program
1695 AD – Robotics
1740 AD – Stealth
1756 AD – Spaceship launched!
1760 AD – Recycling
1769 AD – Refrigeration
1775 AD – Combined Arms
1775 AD – Spaceship Landed!
1777 AD – Ultrastring Theory
1779 AD – Quantum Transport
1781 AD – Telka Sumara
1782 AD – steal Fusion Power
1783 AD – Robotic Warfare
1785 AD – Genetic Engineering
1787 AD – Cybernetics
1790 AD – Bioplasmas
1792 AD – Hyperentropics
1794 AD – Reality Engineering
1798 AD – Transcendence

I was ecstatic about a pre-19th century landing. I was just hoping to get a pre-1900's landing, and to get it before the 1800's blew me away.

I only got 5 techs from the Great library, 1 from Philosophy, 2 from Darwins, and 1 from a hut.

This game was the earliest I have built the Colossus (600BC), and also by far the earliest I got into Democracy. I defeintely think it's time for me to move up to King level. If anyone wants this game (it doesn't seem like there's much interest in this, oh well), I'll post it by request.