20-01-2001 21:28									#1
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I haven’t seen a ToT succession game so far. Here’s what I propose. We play the extended original as the Aliens, starting on a giga random map on Alpha Centauri, and then we try to invade Earth (maxiworld map of 143x229).
The stories should be quite interesting to write : for example :“Cyborgs ravage rich towns of the Indus Valley area while Centaurians Ongshawks fly over Himalaya to make rear attack on Indians troops”
The game would present 2 very different challenges. First we would need to micromanage (probably with perfectionism style) to get science going while alone on Alpha and then we would manage a full scale war on two planets.
Please tell me if you want to join.
I’ve also posted this topic in the ToT forum for advertisement purposes , but I suggest we do all discussion here.
I’ve also posted this topic in the Civ2/General forum and I suggest we do all discussion there. (to make jealous those who don’t own ToT).

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	21-01-2001 09:36									#2
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I'm up for this. Have you seen this thread yet, Julius? http://apolyton.net/forums/Forum29/HTML/000805.html

It's actually not that hard to win playing as the aliens. You can practically have no defense in your cities up until the very end. And depending on how far ahead you are at the end, an invasion of earth can be very easy. I decided to invade once, and found the Russians defending their cities with musketeers, against my Stealth Bombers. It was a quick war...

	21-01-2001 14:10									#3
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Eh I discover you could edit your double posts or your mistakes !
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[This message has been edited by Julius Brenzaida (edited January 21, 2001).]

	21-01-2001 14:12									#4
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Sandmonkey, I want to play this one Deity/Bloodlust/Raging hordes. And on a 143x229 map of earth the AI civs will have a lot of room to expand and prosper. I’m not even sure we will be the 1rst to land. Drakens and Kestrels will blow off the air the stealth fighters and bombers soon enough.

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	21-01-2001 14:13									#5
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Forget about this particular message. It has nothing to do here. I can't delete them, though !


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[This message has been edited by Julius Brenzaida (edited January 21, 2001).]

	02-02-2001 17:16									#6
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Well, is really nobody interested (except Sandmonkey) ?
Boy, this ToT game must not have sold well !

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	18-02-2001 01:22									#7
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Why not? I am certainly willing to try this.

	18-02-2001 14:50									#8
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Good ! We would be 3 then !
I think it would be enough to give it a try.
Yet, I propose we wait a few days more, because being 5 would be great.
Sandmonkey, are you still ready to play ? And do you think the other player who tried with you the Alien strategy in the link you gave me in your post would be interested ?

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	18-02-2001 18:23									#9
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Ok, lets wait a few days. In the meantime why not work out the technicalities? I have my e-mail in my profile and I assume so does everybody else. How many turns should each player make before passing the game on?

	20-02-2001 05:37									#10
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Im up for it
Just show me where to go

	21-02-2001 02:55									#11
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Great, Zulu-E ! now we’re 4. Ideally, I’d like us to be between 5 and 10.
I propose we start the succession game this Sunday. In the meantime, could everybody post his e-mail.
1 : Julius (Julius.brenzaida@infomaniak.ch)
2 : Sandmonkey
3 : Roman
4 : Zulu Elephant

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	21-02-2001 03:22									#12
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1 : Julius (Julius.brenzaida@infomaniak.ch)
2 : Sandmonkey
3 : Roman (lajciak@hotmail.com)
4 : Zulu Elephant

Yes, Sunday sounds fine. I have too much work this week anyway to do play two games at once.

	21-02-2001 08:58									#13
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I am interested, but my modem suck and so does ISP. I only have a 56k :/ and the hardware modem suck and net have the bad habit of freezing... kicked without the thing disconnecting. Not only that, i work part time in weekends


-LordLMP

	22-02-2001 04:04									#14
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LordMP, your connection is not a problem, because succession game means that we will e-mail the .sav file to each other and take turns to lead our empire to victory.

	22-02-2001 17:34									#15
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Yes, LordMP. I start the game, play 15 turns (for example) and then send the game to Sandmonkey, who plays 15 turns and then send the game to Roman who ... I think you get the pictures.
It is fun to play this way and to mix strategies. What's more, we usually try to write a nice little story to go with our short reigns, so the next people might get a clue at we were doing.
You are most welcomed to join.

	22-02-2001 17:46									#16
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Okay then, i'll play the aliens

-LordLMP

	22-02-2001 17:51									#17
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Okay, in a few days, I will start the game.
a) Test of times, will of course be required, with the patch 1.1.
b) We will play the Aliens in the extended original.
c) Selected maxiworld map of 143x299 for earth, and random map for alpha centauri (created just before as I will have to select two maps, but I will have someone to make it for me 'cause I don't want to know the alpha map).
d) Deity, 7 civs and bloodlust.
A few questions now :
1) I'm not sure of the Raging Hordes as they only appear on earth, what do you think. It would give us an edge.
2) What name shall we call ourselves. Any sci-fi reading coming to mind ?
3) For the Aplha map, any preferred settings ? Lot of little islands would be tougher for our growth, I like the idea.
4) For earth, random starting locations or located ones for the AI ?
5) Any special tribes you would like to throw Drakons at ? For example I wouldn't mind telling Ramses his Egyptians a lesson or two.
6) Did I forget something important ?

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	23-02-2001 08:02									#19
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hmmm, the Macky?

Marsians?
Centaurs?
The Little People of Doom?
Seasame Street?
Fraal?
Klingons?
Chigs?
Lemmings?
Zerg?
Humanity?

-LordLMP

	23-02-2001 08:04									#20
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I say have the Russians, Chinese, Japanese, English, Germans, and Spanish :P They are cool when they all have female leaders to contend with.

-LordLMP

	24-02-2001 09:27									#21
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	25-02-2001 10:37									#22
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Phanatic62@aol.com

I'm definetely in.

What are the turn incremients?
[This message has been edited by SandMonkey (edited February 24, 2001).]

	25-02-2001 00:56									#23
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Just out of interest, i dont suppose any of you good people fancy going Multi-player. Ive got no cash and its Saturday night

	25-02-2001 18:16									#25
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Sure, I agree. Lets start Julius! I suggest a giga map, preferably a real world map for Earth and a random one for Alpha Centauri.

	25-02-2001 21:31									#26
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Yeah, I'm going to start it this evening.

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	26-02-2001 10:13									#27
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-LordLMP

	26-02-2001 10:49									#28
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	26-02-2001 02:48									#29
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Sorry, but I’m playing a bit with the events.txt to forbid negociations during the whole game and to stop the race to transcendance. I need to check it out. The sucession game will only start tomorrow morning.

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	26-02-2001 19:45									#30
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Allright, I’ve got this one started. As all succession games are displayed in the General/Help/Community this one will do the same. This way, more players can look at our great deeds. Here’s the link : http://apolyton.net/forums/Forum1/HTML/001839.html
Edit : please no ICS. Big cities with high productions will be needed to invade earth.



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