25-08-1999 07:59									#1
	MPG Patch WORKS! Increase the size of your Attachments

One of the things that has annoyed me the most when playing solo is the miserable Go To command! I have installed the patch (see link under the "Welcome" topic) and Civ2 Ver. 1.1b1 now has a WORKING GO TO COMMAND! I stressed it over the ocean, mountains, plains , roads, rivers and several different units and EACH AND EVERY UNIT WENT EXACTLY WHERE IT WAS SUPPOSED TO GO! No funky paths. No running off roads. No crashing into trees or mountains. Just the cleanest and quickest path to the appointed square! Next on the agenda is testing and stressing the LAN. If that works maybe I'll finally try the net play!

WOO WHO!!!

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	25-08-1999 16:14									#2
	Increase the size of your Attachments

The Mac Civ2 MPG patch is now officially available from MacSoft!
http://www.wizworks.com/macsoft/mac...IIGold_ftp.html

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	25-08-1999 16:24									#3
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The Mac Civ2 MPG patch is now officially available from MacSoft!
http://www.wizworks.com/macsoft/mac...IIGold_ftp.html

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	25-08-1999 20:16									#4
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Hooray! Thanks for checking it out, MacUser! Btw, I noticed that MacSoft say on their site that the patch

"Fixed problems when quitting the application."

Uh, what problems? Does anyone know what this means?

	26-08-1999 01:31									#5
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Some people have gotten the message"type2 error has caused civ2 to unexpectedly quit"when they quit playing.It did not seem to effect saved games thankfully.

	26-08-1999 08:14									#6
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Hmmm... I guess I always just lumped all the various crashes together, and got used to it! ;-P

Well, more news on the testing front: my MP game over an ethernet LAN between an iMac and a Performa 6300 worked PERFECTLY! We traded, explored, chatted, exchanged techs and maps and even used the GO TO command! All worked with nary a single bomb or crash! Plus I had FileSharing active and about a bazzillion extensions loaded!

ON TO THE NET!! LET THE GAMING WORLD TREMBLE BEFORE MY LEGIONS!! (and or bribes ;-) )

Happy days are here again...

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	28-08-1999 03:06									#7
	Full PM-box? Change here!

We'll have to wait and see how the patch works - remember, it is rare to get a game even close to the modern era and I've seen some unexplained crashes already. But, without a doubt, this is a vast improvement! I've yet to go up against pc's though, that is a major test.

	29-08-1999 13:41									#8
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Yes there still seems to be problem or two with joining and quitting.And the game runs better with 4 or less players but that is probably because of the machines rather than the game.All in all the jury is still out but it is MUCH better.

	02-09-1999 18:03									#9
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It's promising, all right. The total freeze when you trade with another human seems to have been fixed. We've had one crash - the game simply, suddenly shut down on the host computer - in mid-turn.

	03-09-1999 09:21									#10
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And another total crash. Host computer again.

	03-09-1999 09:12									#11
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On my LAN the host computer (iMac) has never crashed during a MP while using the patch. Although that may not mean much.

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	09-09-1999 08:12									#12
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Another post-patch glitch. Twice, while disbanding a unit in housekeeping mode - when others are taking their turn - the game froze then crashed. I don't feel like trying it again to see if it's an everytime event. Can't remember doing the same thing in the same circumstances pre-patch, so I can't compare.

And, opening the World menu to check the demographics, a freeze and crash. Again in housekeeping mode. The housekeeping mode seems to be the common factor.

Anyone else?

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	09-09-1999 08:54									#13
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ya I've had the demography freeze a couple of times.It seems the more activity the more likely a freeze/crash.Too much chat, while not only annoying, also seems to cause problems on occasion.I'm for longer time limits and absolutely NO activity outside of your turn however nobody else is.

	09-09-1999 09:07									#14
	Suffering from ads?

Well, if it's the only way to stop crash/freezes, it's the way to go. Just makes for a hellish boring time waiting while others do their thing. I might have to take up reading.

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	09-09-1999 16:38									#15
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Smash, thinking about the chat-game from hell the other night, I think that you're right! Too many goofy comments gave the host computer a fright! Crashing servers and run-away players makes it hard to build a knight! Perhapes it would help, when chatting begins to count to ten before writting again.

(I'll stop here before the verse gets worse!)

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[This message has been edited by MacUser (edited September 09, 1999).]

	10-09-1999 06:49									#16
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Some recommendations born of experience:Turn ALL graphics options OFF especially diplomacy screen.Turn music,tuter.instant advice OFF.Keep chat down or direct it at particular players.Avoid broadcast to all except when necessary.No activity while ais are moving.Conduct diplomacy on your turn(requires longer time limits I'm afraid).Make sure next person's clock is running before micromanaging,etc.Avoid Rapid opening and closing of screens particularly demographics.No game ever works perfectly Can't wait to do it all again for Civ3.ps..I've had longer "uninterupted"sessions with 4 or less human civs.
[This message has been edited by Smash (edited September 09, 1999).]

	20-09-1999 03:49									#17
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Well,tried a game with some pc's.I have never seen so many lost connections in a game of civ.I was lucky,only 1,but they were dropping like flies around me and the host.Terrible.Not very encouraging.There was a mix of macs and pcs and it didn't seem to favor one over the other.

	28-09-1999 19:20									#18
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Ok, I must be really dim or something. I went to MscSoft's site to download the patch. I clicked on the link and a window opened asking me to name the saved file. [?? - usually the file I'm downloading already has a name] I tried to use the name "civpatch" but that name was rejected.

	29-09-1999 04:43									#19
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Don't know. I went to the link (the wizworks ftp, not the mirror) and selected it. The normal "save as" box appeared with the long file name in the window. Since it was already selected, I started typing and renamed it "civpatch" and started the download. I saw no problems so I canceled the download.

If you try again and still have problems let me know and I'll mail the patch and Read Me note to you.

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	29-09-1999 05:36									#20
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Valmont,

Sounds like another version of the problem I have trying to download the patch from this site. Is this patch haunted?

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	29-09-1999 06:32									#21
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nevermind
[This message has been edited by Smash (edited September 29, 1999).]