20-12-1999 04:30									#1
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What is up with this dinos thing? I'm VERY skeptical about it, to say the least, but even considering that it might be a great game, how in hell is it going to relate to civIII or smac at all in a way that is the least bit fun? Second, this will make SMAC, the last part of the trilogy also the oldest one. who would want to play through dinos, civiii, and THEN play smac, which at that time will be outdated? Unless they redid smac and made it better. .

civIII is the only thing that looks promising at this point, the rest of it looks like crap. . thoughts?

	20-12-1999 05:02									#2
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Hmm, I fail to see how you can describe a game as "crap" even though you know practically nothing about it. All we know so far about this game is that it's supposed to be about dinosaurs. No more, no less.

Granted, the game might be crap, I wouldn't know, but since we know nothing about it, it seems a bit premature to make any statements about it.

I think we all get a bit carried away when we are trying to grasp the actual content of the game. I know I'm confused However, I look forward to watching the game develop and hopefully, it will make sense too

	20-12-1999 09:07									#3
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Well, there was talk of making SMAC 2. I don't know if it is true or not, but it was posted in a previous thread.


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	20-12-1999 09:18									#4
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stupidity isn't a crime. But it should be.

	20-12-1999 23:31									#5
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Wow, lookie at the junior's that learned to read!

Hey dude, why don't you try reading my post man? All i said about the dino's game is that i'm skeptical about it, i didn't say IT was crap.. .
i said the sweep of time trilogy idea is shaping up to be crap, and considering i know a LITTLE bit about it, i think i'm able to at least start a discussion on it.

	21-12-1999 00:14									#6
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Connor, calm down mate! Sweep of Time is an obvious fit, and to me, a great idea.

The creation of Earth, leading to Dinosaurs. Dinosaurs was a major part of this planets process of evolution. Then came the humans, which is where CivIII will come in, and then comes Space Travel, meeting other aliens and landing on alien terrain.

It's starting from the beginning to the end (well kinda the end). This makes better sense rather than starting half way.

Besides, the games will be sold seperatly. You don't have to be apart of the sweep of 'crap' you can just buy civIII and that's it, you're away.

And yeah, Brian said they will update SMAC to todays standards aswell. (CivIII style).

Remember this though, If you want to know what CivIII is going to look like, keep a look out for screenshots of the game Dinosaurs.

	21-12-1999 01:01									#7
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"And yeah, Brian said they will update SMAC to todays standards aswell."

What a crazy world this is.. SMAC isn't even 1 year old yet, and we're already talking of updating it to "today's" standards.

	21-12-1999 01:17									#8
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Well said, Loki -- Remember too that Sid Meier is the same guy who designed Civ AND "CPU Bach." I don't know why people expect him to do something other than what for him is totally original.

Personally I don't care if this new game literally "fits" with Civ III or not, and wouldn't be surprised if in the end it didn't. Even if "Sweep of Time" turns out to be only the designers' grand theory of unification, it would still work.

I suppose it's fair to say that some just aren't interested in what they don't know.

	21-12-1999 02:08									#9
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SMAC isn't even 1 year old yet, and we're already talking of updating it to "today's" standards.

Many CivII scenarios had better graphics than SMAC according to my standards.:-)

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	21-12-1999 04:11									#10
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SMAC is not up to todays standards, graphicaly. Infact, I've seen better early 1997.

Thankfully Firaxis have hired new artists, and judging from the artwork on the Dinosaurs webpage, there is an improvement.

	21-12-1999 04:30									#11
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SMAC is one beutiful game. If graphics could use some work it is unit graphics then. I think the terrain is ok, and ocean particulary. The 3D look is nice, too.

There is The Ultimate Map Question though:
Why didn't they animate te ocean? This goes for Civ II also and CTP.
It would realy be worth the effort (just look at civ I )

	21-12-1999 10:09									#12
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Wow, look at the angry Christian. What ever happened to turning the other cheek? It's true, junior civers can read. Just like senior civers can be completely childish. As you have illustrated so well with your ever so intelligent put-down. I simply thought your statement about the triligy is pre-mature. I just disagree with what you said. Don't get bent out of shape. Cope.

	21-12-1999 10:16									#13
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BTW: I don't recall ever accusing you as being a victim of stupidity. But thanks for volunteering, kimbro.
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	21-12-1999 16:14									#14
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For all we know the sweep of time trilogy could just be three completely separate games in one box that have nothing to do with one another. The only connection that it might have could just be the ending movie of one game becomes the starting intro movie of the next game. Now for me that would be perfectly acceptable as a trilogy, just like how civ2 ended and SMAC started.

	21-12-1999 21:29									#15
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RenderDrone: See my most recent post in the other thread. .

	22-12-1999 03:05									#16
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Hmm, the thing that's puzzling me is how you get strategy into a dinosaur game. If it's RTS then it would just be like playing the zerg in starcraft, and would hardly fit with Civ3 and SMAC. If it's TBS - who are your competitors? Other types of dinosaurs? (in which case you won't have much variety in creatures on your team) Other clans of dinosaurs? I guess that could work, but setting up strategic attacks doesn't seem to fit with dinosaurs, somehow - after all, as the Firaxis teasers pointed out, they did just have brains the size of walnuts.

	22-12-1999 18:34									#17
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Australian, it looks like Firaxis is simply exchanging different units with different dinosaurus. No more fighters plane, put a Pterodaptilus instead. No more tanks, now you have a T-rex. Some stuff, different graphics.
If that's really the main shift from Civ to Sid's Dino, it will be a huge disappointement.
Once again, I can't realize why we are almost fighting about a game we know almost nothing.
Firaxis is only exercising the old marketing trick of "Pavlov's bell". They ring, we drool

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	25-12-1999 21:52									#18
	Got spare money?

I will not be buying this game unless it is a LOT more original.