31-10-2000 23:32									#1
	5th poll: What will make you not buy Dinosaurs? Get a bigger avatar today!

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	01-11-2000 02:22									#2
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How about a rational option in there somewhere?

I plan on buying it, but I don't buy everything Sid ever did.

I don't care if it contains unrealistic elements, as long as they're rational within the scheme of the game. Face it, games are inherently unrealistic on some level.

I don't care if it's an RTS game.

I don't care if it's a TBS game.

I like dinos, but I'm not obsessive about them.

I DO know, and I DO care, however.

So how about "I won't buy it if reviews hammer it" or "I won't buy it if the gameplay (remember that?) sucks"?

	01-11-2000 06:45									#3
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Yeesh... someone's taking this way too seriously
Hey, lighten up , it's only a little poll, and according to MarkG, the most irrational one we've ever had here (that makes sense )

Perhaps there ought to be an "Other" option to cover your choices
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	02-11-2000 00:16									#4
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LOL!!!! It only became irrational after my rant. :>

	06-11-2000 20:57									#5
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Topic:
5th poll: What will make you not buy
Dinosaurs?

Simple

18 months of non-stop marketing hype befor release

Drakenred

hmmm

Do you think a hypothetical Dino-future(sans KT event) would have true Dragons?

Just curiouse

	07-11-2000 02:51									#6
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Depends on how you define 'true dragons'... the classic style from japanese, european, or indian cultures? Or the modern pop-lit McAffrey, D&D kind?

I can't really say there's been a 'marketing blitz'... I didn't even learn about the possibility of this game existing until I chanced upon the Apolyton site, looking for info on the next Civ game.

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	07-11-2000 09:17									#7
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I am not a person for negative posts, but Dinosaurs in a strategy game?!?!?

Please inform me that this is only a joke played by apolyton on Firaxis and strategy players.

	07-11-2000 21:28									#8
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	08-11-2000 16:10									#9
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Coming to think of it, the Dinosaurs game is probably a good idea after all, since it will target young children and bring them into the TBS camp. This means that when they grow older they will enlarge our ranks - the end result being more and better TBS games.

	09-11-2000 16:29									#10
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Roman, currently isn't know if Dino will be TBS or a Real time affair.

I don't know if you feel better now or not!

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	23-11-2000 21:16									#11
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For some reason, this game does not interest me at all. Maybe it's the dinosaurs, but I do like Dinosaurs. I just don't love them. I read some of the first diaries, then I just stopped going to Firaxis' site. I probably won't even consider buying it, unless I hear from great reviews from the gaming community. Then again, I probably won't buy civIII either.

	02-12-2000 08:55									#12
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I guess the answer I'd pick is "If it sounds like a bad game that costs too much, then I won't buy it."

Or

"Wait and see what it looks like when it gets closer to coming out."

Like another poster here, I read a few of the early diaries, then hadn't been back to that site.

If Sid's name's on it, I'll give it some respect. After all he's made a few other good games. But it doesn't make it an automatic buy.

I generally favor TBS games. But that doesn't mean I'll automatically boycott it if its RTS. I suspect that if Sid's creative, it may be something rather different from what we think of as either of these.

Just the fact that the game's on Dinosaurs doesn't really interest me. I guess I went through my phase where I thought dinosaur toys were really neat about 35 years ago.

But this game could also have some very interesting elements. If its a game exploring evolution, the growth and death of species, it could be really interesting. If its a game where I just steer my dinosaurs over to the trees so they can get something to eat, I'll get bored reeeeeaaaaaalll fast.

	03-12-2000 09:27									#13
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I always got the impression from the diaries that, gameplay-wise, Dinosaurs! was going to be alot like Warcraft III. I much rather wait a little while longer and get Warcraft III than get Dinosaurs!.

At the time of this post, about a quarter of posters here will not buy the game period. And if it is a RTS game (which it looks like it's going to be) that percentage jumps to nearly one-half.

Now if Sid can't even convince one-half of his fans to get it, how do you think the game will fare with the rest of the world?

My conclusion: Dinosaurs! has an above average chance in becoming vaporware. But if Warcraft III goes gold within a quarter Dinosaurs!'s release, Dinosaurs! is guarenteed to become vaporware.

	06-12-2000 08:27									#14
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What would make me not buy it?

Wha's a matter Sid? Lose your Marketing Dept.?

What kind of dorky question is that?

	02-01-2001 10:59									#15
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TWEP,

I don't quite understand how Dinosaurs is going to be a lot like WarCraft III. Yes they will both be RTS. Yes they both involve gathering resources and fighting enemies, but that is involved in every RTS game and they still sell tons of copies.

WarCraft III is supposed to introduce some RPG elements to RTS, which might or might not work depending on how they balance the game.

Firaxis with Dinosaurs promises evolution. I envision some grand environment with my dinosaurs evolving to become bigger and better. If an enemy attacks from the rear, my dinos that have genetic mutations having an eye in the back will survive. Soon my entire group will have eyes in their back and my dinos will kill your dinos (ok so I went to far).

While both games have elements that are similar (i.e. RTS) they should have enough differences and if done right new elements to gaming that they both should find a market.

	03-01-2001 03:35									#16
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A minor comment considering sale-ability.

I doubt even 0.1% of Sid's fans would buy a 3d hunting game.

And yet games of this genre continue to dominate the sales charts.

Limiting yourself to an existing fan base is a sure path to extinction.

Only diversity and adaption are realistic routs to longevity.

	04-01-2001 01:05									#17
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any of you guys ever play simearth?

its an old Maxis game based on enviromental theory - you can use it to fool around with global warming, terraforming, or the evolution of earth from early in the planets geological history. models climatological and geological stuff - evolution will give you plants - which will change the atmosphere to give make animals possible, than possibility of evolution towards intelligence and technology - if prior ages have left behind enough fossil fuels, can have industry, but that can lead to problems, including global warming. Concept is cool, but its damned ugly and quite complex, and i havent felt motivated to actually play it much. It is "real time" IIRC but in the slow, serious fashion of simcity.

I presume dino would be some cross between an environmental sim like this, and a competing tribes of dinos game with heavy civ influences (expand, conquer. stuff, eat other dinos, evolve)

	12-01-2001 01:10									#20
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There's an important difference between games (Civ) and toys (SimEarth).

They can both be a lot of fun, but they have very different play styles. Toys don't have win conditions.

	25-01-2001 02:08									#22
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Dinos: What will make you not buy Dinosaurs? Option Votes / Percentage I will buy ANYTHING that has the name Sid Meier on it 23 / 15% I won't buy if it contains unrealistic elements 17 / 11% I won't buy if it's an RTS game 39 / 26% I won't buy if it's a TBS game 2 / 1% I won't buy period, since I hate anything that involves dinos 37 / 25% Dont know/Dont care 28 / 19% Total Votes: 146 View Comments Forums Main Page

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	25-01-2001 08:11									#23
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Looks like I "win" the poll. ;-)

Oh, well--maybe the concept will be resurrected someday. In the meantime, I'm now really curious about the non-Civ III project that has Sid so excited. Time will tell.

	26-01-2001 00:28									#24
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I guess the game not being made will make me not buy it.

	28-01-2001 09:07									#25
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There not being a dinos game might help