16-11-1999 21:47									#1
	The Dispso Challenge Suffering from ads?

The "no city" challenge sounds relatively boring to me. How about this (must have been discussed before):

(A) You must build a diplomat by some given year [pick the earliest possible year plus abiut five turns; I do not know what that year would be].

(B) Once you have built a diplomat, you may never again build a unit with an attack value greater than zero.

(C) no cheats, as per OCC.

(D) you can win any way you want.


Would this be feasible, and/or interesting?

- toby robison


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toby robison
criticalpaths@mindspring.com

	16-11-1999 23:00									#2
	Tired of ads?

An odd game, to be sure. Would you like to try it? Does requiring a dip by 1200BC sound workable? I checked old games, but I don't often go to dips very early.

I see a problem with sea-travel. The ships have offensive power, but you could get stuck on separate landmasses and not be able to built them to escape. Perhaps the Euro map should be used...

I'm thinking on how I would proceed in such a game. Suggest a time to try this out... I'm EST

	17-11-1999 12:13									#3
	Suffering from ads?

(catullus enters trance)
I'm having a vision of massive bribery of barbs here. Possibly even giving cities away to barbs just for snatching NONE units.
Wait a second, a name forms in my vision. Leo something. Leonardo? Could that be it?

Should be feasible. I've played OCC games without building any units between warriors and flight/mobile warfare.

C.

	18-11-1999 12:59									#4
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I remember an old OCC (before Paul's age, when landing in 1950 was a record) where I didn't build any military units.
I got 2 archers from huts, I fortified themin my city and then I used diplomats to bribe a lot of AI units.
I had a big army of NONE warriors, turned into rifleman by Leo (yes, in early OCC Leo was considered a MUST HAVE wonder).