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Christo is offline Christo
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Seattle, WA
Apr 2000
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Negative percentage Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

I was cruising along in "my best game ever"
not really paying attention to my percentage
score but watching the population creep up
past 150 million and the score go over 3000.
At some point I looked at the percentage
score and it was negative--like minus 256%!
I played the game out and finished with over
200 million pop and 4000 score but I never
got my percentage above minus 100%. Can
anyone explain what happened? Is this a bug
or a feature?

Paul is offline Paul
Emperor
Zwolle, The Netherlands
Mar 1999
time: 06:12
Post  Old Post 18-04-2000 12:28 Visit Paul's homepage!
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That's a bug in the older versions of Civ2. Download the 2.42 patch that fixes it.

Father Beast is offline Father Beast
King
My head stuck permanently in my civ
Feb 2000
time: 22:12
Angry  Old Post 18-04-2000 16:31
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Got spare money?

Is this related to when you sometimes conquer a city and lose gold? I had a treasury of 20,000 gold or so and conquered a nearby city and it said "-32684 gold plundered". I then had -12,000 gold in my treasury! it reset to 0 on the next turn, but I had spent a while building that up and I was ticked.

Gatekeeper is offline Gatekeeper
King
United States of America
Feb 2000
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Father Beast:

I believe the bug involving negative treasury numbers happens when one engages an enemy who has more than $29,999 in their treasury at the start of hostilities.

Somehow the computer doesn't like it. Particularly if you, too, have more than $29,999 in the treasury. That's why negative numbers pop up.

Usually I just grimace and go into the cheat menu to lower the treasury amounts of my opponent to $29,900. That fixes the problem. And, IMHO, that "cheat" menu is there because the programmers KNEW it would be necessary, considering the cheats the AI has available (like "finding" newly laid cities).

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William Keenan is offline William Keenan
Prince
New Jersey, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way
Sep 1999
time: 00:12
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Actually the truth is that it is not really a bug at all. It is something that happens when computers do math on a 2 byte interger value. When one is added to the value 32767 it becomes -32768. The bug is that they should have used a four byte integer so that the value would not roll over until it reached two-billion.

Earthling7 is offline Earthling7
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of pop
Jul 1999
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2.000.000 should be enough... but is doesn't explain the purple in the Demographics.

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