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st. dexter
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Anyone else experiencing slow (one minute more or less) gameplay between turns? I am running a P2/233 with 64 ram. I have Win ME, and my res is set to 800 X 600. I have next to nothing installed on my hard drive (4.3 gig with half free). I got about one hour into a medium level game, and the AI was taking forever to cycle. The game is a full install. When I tried the Alexander scenario, forget about it, it took forever to cycle through that (yeah I know that scenario says high end systems with 266mh but come on) It's frustrating to play like this! any suggestions?
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Dida
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your computer is way too slow man. and note that, Windows ME takes up a f***king lot of memory.
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eluttre
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I agree the game slows terribly. I hope it's just a mem leak or something geeky that can be resolved with a patch... This is going to be a major complaint area for Activision unless it can be fixed.
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SeveB
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London
Mar 1999
time: 05:14
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I would splash out for at least an extra 64 Mb RAM, either that, or bin WinME and put 95/98 on there.
I've got a P2/233 with 128Mb (running Win98), and I've ordered a new processor, as I noticed that several recent games (CM 00/01, Shogun) were taking a bit longer than I liked. My new P3 should arrive just as CTP2 hits Europe :-)
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Builder
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hey!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have p200 with 40 megs RAM!!!!!!!!!!!
will it work???????
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Savant
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The Mountain Empire
Jul 1999
time: 00:14
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The AI portion of the game is very integer-intensive. The best processor out there to speed up that portion of the game is an AMD Athlon. There are great deals out there and I suggest you upgrade to an Athlon 750 or so that will run you about $95 on pricewatch,com and get a Abit motherboard so you can run it at 850 or higher.
Then get at least 128mb 133 SDRAM and a good AGP videocard with at least 16mb of SDRAM.
You will be rocking and the opponents just whiz through their planning!
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you can lower the limits of time the AI has to complete his turns(from a text file, i dont recall which one tright now) and/or play with less civs
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John-SJ
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Silicon Valley, USA
Aug 1999
time: 21:14
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Undoubtably, slower computers with smaller memories (64Mb or less) will benefit greatly from a memory upgrade. For a game that requires lots of resources like CtP2 a large memory is as important (maybe more) important as a fast processor.
Short of that, there's still something you can do though. Use Ctrl-Alt-Del to bring up the "Close Program" dialog and close everything except "explorer" and "systray". If you have limited memory this will give CtP the maximum available to run with.
I would guess also that smaller worlds and/or fewer civs would help as well.
John-SJ
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to people with 64mb ram(or less): do yourself a favor and go to 128mb. not just for ctp2, for any use of windows....
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eluttre
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People, people I HAVE the "recommended" specs for the game 233 w/64mb of RAM. The turns are long and the game controls get sluggish and buggy with more units. Many, many bugs...
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Mad-Kat
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Camarillo, CA, USA
Apr 1999
time: 05:14
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Oh come on! Who the hell still uses a 233 mhz PC for games? If you do and still have less than 128 meg of ram, save your poor, little valued pennies since you are obviously a complete tightwad. Stick to playing windows solitaire!
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Jen Dragon
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Lubbock, Tx. USA
Sep 2000
time: 05:14
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like someone above said dont waste your money on memory up grade of pii get a piii or anthalon 700 to 800 range for a couple of hundred thats only 4 or 5 computer games. pii 233, your not a gamer, you cant be.
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violent
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boston, ma, usa
Nov 2000
time: 05:14
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build a computer...it's a lot cheaper than buying a complete system. A 1 gig amd processor costs around $280.
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Sky Dog
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Tucker, GA USA
Jul 2000
time: 00:14
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Bringing this topic back, I think there may be a memory leak. The AI slows down after I've been playing a long time, but after I reboot, the AI turns get quite a bit faster and are not a problem. I'm using an AMD K6-2, 475mhZ, 128MB system.
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Savant
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The Mountain Empire
Jul 1999
time: 00:14
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OK, a memory leak. I think you may be right. That also makes the game a real memory hog but with 128 mb dimms at $42 (see Pricewatch.com) that is less than the cost of the game.
The other thing, which is not as good a solution is to spend like $10 for memturbo which is a memory defraging program designed to recover RAM from those memory leaks. Of course, you would have to alt-tab to run memturbo, interrupting your game. But that is a low-cost option.
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Cyrius
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Minneapolis, MN, USA
Nov 2000
time: 05:14
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Um, I have a Celeron 300 running at 450 and 128 mb or RAM, game runs perfectly well for me with 8 civs. My computer is 2 years old, too. Guys, if your running a pentium 233, it might be time to consider an upgrade.
I haven't seen any animated goods yet. I liked that in CTP1, even though it slowed the game down. Am I missing something?
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Savant
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The Mountain Empire
Jul 1999
time: 00:14
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Yes, you're right. I forgot that memturbo does have a TSR and will run on it's own. I disabled the TSR on my game drive though bc I found that it would crash some games. I forget if CTP was one of them.
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Locutus
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ACS CTP1/2 Manager & Civ4 Co-Manager
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Hengelo, The Netherlands
Nov 1999
time: 06:14
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Well, I've been playing pre-release versions of the game (with all kind of debug-code in it that slows things down) on my P200 (64 MB) for quite a while now and I'm very satisfied with the speed. Okay, the Alexander scenario is a wee bit slow, but for the rest it's very acceptable and the final game should be even faster.
The thing is, it's not just processor speed and amount of memory that counts, it's also how you use it. I've been optimizing the speed of my computer for several years now and I'm convinced that my P200 is faster in running apps and games (not in pure processing power of course) than some of those PII400's out there (in fact, I know for a fact that my system is faster than the PII 300 of my neighbours). Not loading components of Windows you don't or hardly use, not having any TSR's running, optimizing the BIOS settings, using the right amount of cache and virtual memory, etc., etc. It all helps improving the performance of your computer. People who've never done any of this can probably boost performance of their system with more than 50%. It's just that it takes a lot of time and patience to squeeze everything out of your system that's in it. But the fact that it doesn't cost a penny makes it, at least for a poor student like me, well worth the effort. (In fact, at one point I spent 40 bucks or so on 32MB extra memory and I was quite dissappointed with how little improvement that gave me, whereas reconfiguring my BIOS was free but much more effective).
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Savant
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The Mountain Empire
Jul 1999
time: 00:14
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Locutus you are so right!! It's not just the resources you possess, but those available to your machine in time of need.
I agree that you should keep TSRs to a minimum. For my gaming machine, I have two swappable master harddrives for this reason.
On drive 1 (AbitaPro), a 14.4 GB IBM @ 7200RPM, I have all my work and internet applications and it's loaded with TSRs, reducing my available RAM from 256mb to 140mb after bootup. It also has several device drivers to load not present on my gaming hard drive like a swappable slave and a parallel port drive. The registry is also large at 7.5 mbs in size.
On drive 2 (AbitaPlay), a 20.5 GB WD @ 7200 RPM, I have a "trimmed" set of work and internet applications.. just the basics (IE 5.0 not 5.5 for example). On this I also have my games, prominently featuring CTP1 with Wes' Mod on a separate partition. When I boot up on this drive, I have 180mb of free RAM. The registry is about 4.5 mb in size.
It is faster, leaner, and boots up in about 1/2 the time all bc of TSR, registry, and device loading differences despite being the same machine.
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17-11-2000 08:43
I was going to buy a new 32MB card which are 4xAGP, but if I buy one I won't be using half it's power. And I really don't know that I can justify spending money on a new video card as well as a motherboard (and while I'm at it why not throw in a processor?)
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