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DaddyCool is offline DaddyCool
Chieftain
Ontario, Canada
Oct 2000
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Question  Old Post 19-11-2000 14:20
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same civs... Suffering from ads?

Maybe it's me, but I've started about 5 or 6 games so far, and it seems to me that out of that list of, what is it, 42? civs, I'm always playing against the same ones.

It's always been me (Romans), Americans, French, German, English, Irish, Scottish and Native Americans.

I tried choosing Americans, same civs, except Japan was added.

And now that I think of it, from reading everyone's posts about their games, I don't remember the mention of different AI opponents.

Isn't this supposed to be random? Kinda weird...
[This message has been edited by DaddyCool (edited November 19, 2000).]

Cyrius is offline Cyrius
Chieftain
Minneapolis, MN, USA
Nov 2000
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Post  Old Post 20-11-2000 03:06
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Hmm, it may depend on who you pick, I supposed. As Welsh, I went up against Zulus, France, Mexicans, Greeks, and Assyrians. Later, as Incans, I went up against Mexicans, Americans, Greeks, Russians (I think), and, um, other people I haven' met yet .

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And now that I think of it, from reading everyone's posts about their games, I don't remember the mention of different AI opponents.



Well, I definately found different AI styles in the computer players. If you are asking if they a particular nationalities AI style changes from game to game, I'm not sure about that.

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Warlord
Tampa, Florida
Sep 2000
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Unhappy  Old Post 20-11-2000 09:47
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I think you're on to something... I'm playing as Americans and the other civs are the Germans, English, Irish, Scottish, Native Americans and the Japanese! Plus the French may be there too, there's still some undiscovered terrain. That's not cool.

DaddyCool is offline DaddyCool
Chieftain
Ontario, Canada
Oct 2000
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Unhappy  Old Post 20-11-2000 10:17
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Hmmm...I tried out a whole bunch of civs (including Welsh and Incas), and, using the cheat thing to quickly check out the opponents, it's always, always, always:

Americans
Native Americans
English
Scottish
Irish
French
Germans

If I pick any one of those, then the Japanese are there too.

This kinda sucks...

TheBirdMan is offline TheBirdMan
Emperor
A real Master of CTP-PBEM - together with all the others.....
Sep 1999
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Post  Old Post 20-11-2000 10:27
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I havn't the game yet - but does the game have a userprofile.txt just as CTP?

Course if, then look for something like

NonRandomCiv=yes/no

Just a suggestion.

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Chieftain
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Oct 2000
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Talking  Old Post 20-11-2000 10:35
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Sweet! You're right ...

Don't remember changing it to that though...

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Warlord
Amsterdam
Oct 2000
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Post  Old Post 20-11-2000 11:04
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Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

Kind od ridiculous that they didn't make that random choice the default, one of those many minor errors that made me feel sick about CTP1

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Stockholm, Sweden
Jan 1970
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Post  Old Post 20-11-2000 15:44
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I think that it is that way so you donīt have the nicaraguans in all your games
But anyway, i would like a screen where you pick you own enemies...

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Settler

Nov 2000
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Post  Old Post 22-11-2000 09:15
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The same 7 civs over and over.. It seems there is no solution.. I wasted $50 bucks on this damn game.

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Camarillo, CA, USA
Apr 1999
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OK!! This is really pissing me off! No matter what I try, I cannot get the game to start with anything but the same ****ing 7 Civilizations. Exactly what Daddy listed. Always the same!! Changing the NonRandomCiv in flag in UserProfile.txt to "No" does nothing! The game just changes it to "Yes" upon starting a new game. WHY!! The default is no! This has ruined my enjoyment of an otherwise great game. It's no fun playing the same damn races every game! Activision! Please fix this now!

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Jun 2000
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Hmm, the fix works perfectly for me...
NonRandomCivs=No
Are you sure that's exactly what it says? If so, that's strange because when I changed that, started CTP2, created a new game with George Washington-Americans, it was random. Then I tried Geor-Americans, still random. Then I restarted CTP2 and tried LO-Americans, still random.

Therefore, I can think of three solutions: Wait for a patch, play the Americans, and/or use my computer which is having no problems.

Depp is offline Depp
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Stockholm, Sweden
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Mad-Kat, if you change it and open the txt file again itīs still changed until you u start a new game again ?
It works good for me.
Play with 16 civs then youīll get some new anyhow

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Prince

Jul 2000
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I just looked at mine, it was set at no. Everygame I have played so far has had a different combo of civs.

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Settler

Nov 2000
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Post  Old Post 22-11-2000 20:11
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I experimented with this last night, because I was getting very annoyed with always have the same AI races. I had the same problem Mad-Kat is having...I changed the NonRandomCivs line, but when I started a new game it still used the same civs, and when I looked again, the option was reset to yes.

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Nov 2000
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Changing the "Yes" to a "No" does absolutly nothing for me. It doesnt go back to "Yes" after I change it, It stays "No" but the civs are still the same no matter what the line says.

Im packing this game up and selling it on Ebay. I wont get my $50 bucks back but hopefully I can cut my losses.

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try starting a multiplayer game with just you. in one of the screens you can set with which civs you want the ai to play

Yatermie is offline Yatermie
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Nov 2000
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Post  Old Post 23-11-2000 10:23
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I just started a 16 civ game..

I got the same list of civs.. but the last one picked was the romans(OMG! an actual ancient civ!)

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Nov 2000
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Post  Old Post 23-11-2000 10:34
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On a probably related note..

Why am I always blue?

No matter what civ I am I'm always blue!
Can we make this random too?

I LIKED being pink in civ1 and orange in civ2(i play greeks )

Can someone point the right way to change this?

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Originally posted by Yatermie on 11-22-2000 12:34 PM
On a probably related note..

Why am I always blue?

No matter what civ I am I'm always blue!
Can we make this random too?
you cant make it random, but you can change it. see colors00.txt in the Call To Power 2\ctp2_data\default\gamedata folder
look out for "COLOR_PLAYER1"

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Originally posted by ImaginaryBoy on 11-22-2000 11:10 AM
Changing the "Yes" to a "No" does absolutly nothing for me. It doesnt go back to "Yes" after I change it, It stays "No" but the civs are still the same no matter what the line says
try also puting nonrandomcivs to no on the profile.txt file in ctp2_data\default\gamedata

Mad-Kat is offline Mad-Kat
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Apr 1999
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Originally posted by MarkG on 11-22-2000 11:18 AM
try starting a multiplayer game with just you. in one of the screens you can set with which civs you want the ai to play


I don't want to set the Civ's I play, that's just as bad. I want it RANDOM!

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Nov 2000
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Post  Old Post 23-11-2000 00:05
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Originally posted by ImaginaryBoy on 11-22-2000 11:10 AM

Changing the "Yes" to a "No" does absolutly nothing for me. It doesnt go back to "Yes" after I change it, It stays "No" but the civs are still the same no matter what the line says.

Im packing this game up and selling it on Ebay. I wont get my $50 bucks back but hopefully I can cut my losses.





WTF??? You want to sell the same(and make a loss) when your only problem is that the civs arent random?
Are you crazy?

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Camarillo, CA, USA
Apr 1999
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I was so frustrated that I emailed Mr. Ogre last night on this problem. Hopefully he or another Activision guy can shed some light on it.

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Settler
Atlanta
Nov 2000
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Unhappy  Old Post 23-11-2000 05:29
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I've got same problem, Mad-Kat! The program keeps changing NonRandomCivs back to Yes! Let us know if you hear anything from Activision. I have to be able to beat up on the evil Greeks once and while!

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