01-12-2000 02:21									#1
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ok, i am eviently doing somehting wrong, but not sure what. for some reason i cant get my artillary onto my cargo helicopter. i tried in/outside of cities, with/without units asleep, un/grouped, and i even tried it with the "load cargo" button. but all i keep getting is an empty helicopter or a piano key chime for it being an invalid action. what gives?

	01-12-2000 19:39									#2
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I think I remember reading somewhere that the cargo helicopter can only carry infantry troops. Sorry, you can't airdrop those tanks just yet...

	04-12-2000 02:37									#3
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It is depending on the size. Artillery is medium. Cargo Helicopter can only carry small. For some strange reson a tank is small, probly a bugg..

/Mathias

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	02-12-2000 00:37									#5
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I was wondering if the production from empty queues:

1) Accumulates

2) Goes to military support (a la franchises, from what I have read somewhere)

3) Is wasted.

(1) should be easy to test, but I'm at work (your tax $$ at play). I did see, I think, accumulated production from a queue in a just-captured city, so seemingly empty queues might accumulate.

(2) Would kinda make sense, and so is probably wrong.

(3) If this is the case, we ought to get a pop-up message every turn, or even at the end of the turn.

	03-12-2000 09:26									#6
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haven't got the game but i have heard it's just wasted.
checkhttp://apolyton.net/forums/Forum43/HTML/000146.html?3

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	02-12-2000 18:57									#8
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Ok, this is what the manual says (p26)

quote: As a city grows in population, its area of influence will eventually spread out even further, as much as two more tiles in every direction for extremely large cities.

so this is meant to mean that the city influence will extend three tiles from the city yes?

but, also from the manual (p27)

quote: Also keep in mind that a city's area of influence can expand considerably over the span of time. Although they may start of small and remain so for hundreds of years, eventually cities may grow to control every terrain tile within a five-tile radius of the city centre!

this seems to suggest that it will extend five tiles from the city?!?

As I am too impatient to wait until I have played a couple of games through to find out which is the truth can some one else please help me so I can plan where to put my cities - how large an area of influence do they get

Just the first in a long line of queries I am sure to have.

	02-12-2000 23:12									#9
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your city's tile influence grows with it's pop size. it's eventual size depends on your borders (marked in blue...) if you have no other cities close enough to infringe on your borders, it should very large. your first increase should come at pop 8 or thereabouts.

	03-12-2000 06:02									#10
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size 7= 2 tiles
size 19= 3 tiles
size 30something= 4 tiles

at around city size 60 the city takes up just about all of the national border.

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	03-12-2000 10:23									#11
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Yeah, I've noticed the border doesn't change when the cities area of influence changes. So the border is four tiles away, and the city can grow to fill the border

So the manual isn't right in any place, the city influence max is four tiles, not three or five?

	05-12-2000 07:29									#12
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I think it's something like:
------545------------------------------------
-----54345-----------------------------------
----5432345---------------------------------- ---543212345--------------------------------- ---432101234--------------------------------- ---543212345--------------------------------- ----5432345---------------------------------- -----54345----------------------------------- ------545------------------------------------

Thats probably wrong i remember 5 as only affecting 3 tiles each corner but there's definetly 5 and 5 only affects the corners
this is ****ed up because of the posting system thing try to figure it out

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	04-12-2000 11:53									#14
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i'm playing my first ctp2 game on a gigantic map with 8 civs.

i've taken over 60 cities and can't get anymore.

i'm trying to finish the game with the gaia controller but there's no way i can get 60% coverage because the map is gigantic and i can't build oblisks outside my borders.

what do i do now? wait till 2300, use eco ranger for bloodlust victory or restart?

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I say, blow them all up with the 'ranger!!!

	05-12-2000 03:35									#16
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Actually, you can give your cities Florida ballots to work with, then maybe they'll disband out of the sheer tedious work and confusion.

	05-12-2000 04:47									#17
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Building fortifications will move your borders out. Fortifications can be built outside your borders as well, as long as you have an army there. They give extra territory of a radius of two tiles.

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WAR!!!!!!
Try a little nuclear/Nanite warfare hahahhahahahah!!!


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	05-12-2000 10:39									#19
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Try forts to extend your borders.

	05-12-2000 23:10									#20
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hmm forts, that's a good idea, i'll give it a try

if that fails or my patience runs out... ranger time!

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	05-12-2000 18:01									#25
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Well, how?

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