26-12-2000 10:34									#1
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If you think that the legion should be put in ctp2 post in this thread...

Come on can we just get the legion unit on a patch?

please, if this thread gets a lot of posts can you put the legion back?

	26-12-2000 19:28									#2
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You are absolutely right! The legion belongs in any civ game and should be in ctp2. I don't understand why activision changed units like that!? If it was a copyright issue, then why did they keep other units?

Bring back the legion and the chariot too!!!

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	26-12-2000 19:58									#3
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Ave!

I absolutely agree! Legions must be bring back into this game! I decry their absence in the first post I've made concerning that game. How could be that one of the most infuential military unit in history is not in a civilisation game? It prevail on the battlefield longer than any other military unit! 400+ years isnt worth enough to be included?

Bring back the Legion please, I really missed them.

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	26-12-2000 20:17									#4
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If you want a realatively simple way to have a Legion and don't necessarily want the Samurai, do the following:

Open "newsprite.txt" in your default gamedata folder and look for "SPRITE_SWORDSMAN" (that's what the Activision programmers called samurai). Change the number next to it to "83". Save and close.

Open "uniticon.txt" and scroll down to the section for units (you'll see terrain, advances, etc.). In the units section look for "ICON_UNIT_SWORDSMAN". You'll notice a bunch of text entries for the unit going from left to right. You'll also notice such entries as "UPUP###L.tga", "UPUP###A.tga", and "UPUP###B.tga". Change all instances of the number that already exists for swordsman (I forget what it is) to "083" (there have to be three numbers). Make sure you scroll all the way from left to right to look for all instances of those entries (I believe there are a total of 4) and change them. Save and close.

Open the gamedata folder in the "english" folder. Open "gl_str.txt". Look for the units section and find swordsman again. Change the entry in quotes from "Samurai" to "Legion". Save and close.

Now you will have a legion instead of Samurai.

If you want to change its combat values and when it is available, open the "Units.txt" file in the default gamedata folder. Scroll down until you find "UNIT 64" "UNIT_SWORDSMAN". Near the beginning of the entry for swordsman there will be some numbers for its "Defense" and "Attack" values. You may also change the "Armor" and "Firepower" for the unit. Change the numbers if you'd like. If you want the unit to cost more or less to build, change the "ShieldCost" number. If you want the unit to cost more or less to support, change the "ShieldHunger" entry. If you want to change when Legion becomes available scroll down to where it says "EnableAdvance" and change the advance to whatever you want. It must be in all caps and be proceeded by "ADVANCE_". You may just want to leave it as "IRON_WORKING".

Hope this works.


Enjoy!

	27-12-2000 10:56									#5
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I know dude, but then the game won't work for mp games

	26-12-2000 23:42									#6
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	26-12-2000 23:46									#7
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I agree, and whilst they're at it how about throwing a Chariot in as well!

	27-12-2000 01:03									#8
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Gotta agree on the chariots. They are far more important that horse archers. They should be an earlier version of unit that is faster than inf but slower than cav.

How the heck can I historically cream the Egyptians without chariots. And who ever heard of mass groups of horse archers making a differnce?

	27-12-2000 01:18									#9
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Have U ever heard of the Mongol Horde ( Famous Horse Archers,a bit later in history)

	27-12-2000 04:17									#10
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It is hard to play a civ game without legions and chariots. It just doesn't seem natural. It seems as though CTP is trying to be less western-European-centric by including a more diverse group of units. However noble tat may be, I find little emotional attachment to samuri and horse archers and definitely miss legions.

	27-12-2000 04:19									#11
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I dunno if the horde were all archers, but I'm on shaky ground here. I figure that they had archer auxileries, but I don't think they were used fully as horse archers.

Chariots are far cooler, anyway. I remember some of my early civ games, with my chariots and road networks... Ah, those days... Barbarians learned to stay away from me.

Then Microprose loosened the lug nuts on the chariots and the fun went out...



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	27-12-2000 12:25									#12
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I mostly play the Romans and i miss my legions

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	27-12-2000 19:31									#13
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I never play Romans and I dont care about a legion being there or not.

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