09-01-2001 03:33									#1
	Glad I Didn't Buy! No More Activision For Me! Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

Wow.. am I ever glad I didn't drop a dime on this peice of crap! I knew better this time around that all this hype from Activision would show to be false. From all the posts I've seen in here, Activision has utterly FAILED to accomplish even fundamental function for this game (once again).

No scenarios with the initial game, AI sucks, unstable, AI sucks, save game problems, AI sucks, border problems, AI sucks...

I bought my LAST activision game a couple of years ago. I will never trust them for any quality output again. Are you getting the message yet there Action-less vision-less? You better.. its a tough market, and if there is one thing the consumer won't stand for, its incompetence in software developers.

	09-01-2001 03:46									#2
	Tired of ads?

You're probably right on every account. Unfortunately for us and fortunately for Activision, most of us die hard civ game fans want new civ games so badly we bought the game despite bad experiences with CTP1. We're so desperate, we bought it with knee jerk reaction --like some kind of addicts who can't wait until CivIII comes out.

I have to admit, though, (and I think most would) there are many things that make CTP fun and quite interesting. It is still enjoyable to play, at least in some small measure (with my own personal mods, of course). $50 is quite a lot of money to pay for a game with so many flaws, but my wife and I play it so much I guess we're getting our money's worth.

	09-01-2001 04:15									#3
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization: The Boardgame

My dear goodness, if everybody chose not to buy any game where the AI sucked then pretty much every game would remain on the shelves. StarCraft's AI was extremely easy, Command & Conquer's AI was extremely horrible, Civ 2's AI was easy, SMAC's AI was easy(although I think it has the best TBS AI in that the civs could actually take over each other) Baldur's Gate 2's AI sux also. In fact in all of these games the AI cheats a **** load(especially starcraft) and that's why you may end up losing. I really honestly think Civ2 has a worse AI then CTP2(well actually Civ's 2 ai is much easier to program since it isnt as complex of a game). Oh ya and Paul D there are scenarios with the initial release. I havent had any stability problems, Heck I havent even run into A SINGLE SAVE GAME PROBLEM. In fact no game is perfect. And some of the imperfections you say about the game I havent once experienced. I guess I am just lucky.

	12-01-2001 01:02									#7
	Tired of ads?

And just to throw my 2 cents in... When Vampire was released there were TONS of problems with it. I got pretty fustrated with them all and honestly haven't played it since about 15 days after it was released. Maybe I'll go back and see if they've done any more patches to it since then... it'll give me hope that CTP will be fixed up a bit more.

	13-01-2001 03:53									#9
	Support Apolyton or Terrorists Win

I have had no problems at all with save games and the AI is better than any civ game yet !
Call to power 2 is a great game everything about it is good i cannot fault it in any way......
I think this Paul D guy is probably 8 years old or has the mentality of an 8 year old, he is getting upset because he cant work out how to play a thinking game like this.

	13-01-2001 13:24									#11
	Support Apolyton, pre-order Civilization IV

dear god, osco you really know how to ruin a thread...