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thug_style
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I've been reading CTP-2 reviews all day, now i'd like to hear some opinions
I'd prefer comparative opinions when possible
(CTP-1 vs. CTP-2)
1. How is CTP-2 "out-of-the-box"
(compared to CTP-1 "out-of-box")
2. Have there been any "official" patches?
3. Any "un-official" patches?
(like the 1.21 hack for CTP-1)
4. How is the game after patching?
(if any patches are available)
5. Are there any 'major' mods yet?
(like CD's mod for CTP-1)
6. How is the modded CTP-2 game...
a. compared to an un-modded CTP-2 game
b. compared to CTP-1 with Awesome AIPs or Med Mod4
7. What do you think about the future of CTP-2 mod-making?
any opinions will greatly help!
by the way----
i'd like to say thanks to the member named 'diplomat', for his/her great review on CTP-2
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Dragonfly
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San Francisco, CA, USA
Nov 2000
time: 21:14
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See if you can find it for under $30 somewhere.
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xaldin
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Wait until you can get it for 9.99. Despite its problems its worth about that much at least after mods.
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D4everman
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Fort Dix, New Jersey
Jun 2000
time: 05:14
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Thug-Style, I can say honestly...NO.
But if you really want it, get it for the cheapest price possible. I'd suggest five bucks at the most. Oh, and be wary of Activision products. They tend to to have little regard for their customers.
D4
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thug_style
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thanks everyone!
What was that about no more patches being released??
The game's been out for 2 months and they decided that already??
That pretty much makes up my mind----
sounds like they're preparing to abandon support of the game
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WesW
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Florence, Al., USA
Jan 1970
time: 23:14
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quote:
Originally posted by thug_style on 01-19-2001 01:22 PM
I've been reading CTP-2 reviews all day, now i'd like to hear some opinions
I'd prefer comparative opinions when possible
(CTP-1 vs. CTP-2)
1. How is CTP-2 "out-of-the-box"
(compared to CTP-1 "out-of-box")
Much better. Still needs play-balancing, though the mods coming out will address that (and add a whole lot more).
2. Have there been any "official" patches?
3. Any "un-official" patches?
(like the 1.21 hack for CTP-1)
Not yet. (I don't want to say any more.)
4. How is the game after patching?
(if any patches are available)
The patches only addressed multiplayer stuff.
5. Are there any 'major' mods yet?
(like CD's mod for CTP-1)
Depends on what you mean by Major. Ones are already out that address certain areas.
The Med mod II is about set to go beta, and I think it is major by anyone's definition. 
6. How is the modded CTP-2 game...
a. compared to an un-modded CTP-2 game
b. compared to CTP-1 with Awesome AIPs or Med Mod4
Join the Med mod beta-testers. You will happy you did.
7. What do you think about the future of CTP-2 mod-making?
This game has almost unlimited potential. There are already guys who have done things that have never been done before in a civ game. I get more excited about this game each week. It's just too bad that Activision has announced that there will be no new official patches.
any opinions will greatly help!
by the way----
i'd like to say thanks to the member named 'diplomat', for his/her great review on CTP-2
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One thing I would like to add. Activision has not pulled all "help" for Ctp2. Some of the programmers are still active here, if you have questions about settings or other specific gameplay questions. There is just no support from the company for making and distributing another patch, unfortunately. Who knows, though, maybe this will change in the future.
If you give up on the game now, I think you will be making a mistake.
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Activision's support concerning "help" for CTP2 is fine and dandy. However, without no more official patches to fix a basically "broken" game, a fat lot of good there is in having an "Activision Help Desk." I ask you, what could possibly be Activisions "help" on the known broken/bugged issues? Answer: "Sorry, that option or event doesn't work" or maybe "Check the Apolyton Site for advice"...Gee, thanks for the helpful advice Activision! 
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MrLeN
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Melbourne
Jan 2001
time: 05:14
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Keep in mind that Activision (through legalities) have been forced to drop the name "Civilization". The game is a mockery. Do not buy the game. Stick with Sid Meiers Civ II. Activision have tried to get in on action that is out of their league. The game has bugs. Activision have stated that they don't care. Just stick with Civ II and wait for Civ III. Look at this game as a non event.
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MrLeN, I do believe you hit the nail on thr head! 
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Christmann
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Denmark
Jan 2000
time: 05:14
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As an alternative to waiting for Civ III which won't be out for another year (?), Europa Universalis is released in the US/UK in about a month.
Now there's a company (Paradox Entertainment) who knows about game support! The game has been out for three months in Sweden and Germany only and already seven patches has been made. Sure, the game was buggy from the start, so there was a genuine need for it, but unlike Activision, they responded to the complaints on their forums and not only that; they have also improved the AI a lot in some of the patches in response to suggestions on their forums.
[This message has been edited by Christmann (edited January 28, 2001).]
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19-01-2001 23:22
) i start off as the english on world map straight away i notice the map is poor england looks crap all forest so you start off in a useless position with very poor growth.took me all of 30 minutes to have used all the different screens know what they do(basics at least) and of course pissed off the romans i think. started new game ... and so on.(i just realised i was straying widely off the point 
after messing around with the AI files myself ive got them to attack me more with better advanced armies.
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