13-05-2000 17:20									#1
	Ignorance...Palaces/capitals Support Apolyton or Terrorists Win

I haven't looked far enough into the code, I guess... what happens when a civilization has no capital? Palace sold, or captured by another player? I guess my question is, how are things like bribe cost and corruption calculated when there is no palace?

Moses

	13-05-2000 18:41									#2
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Don't know enough about the inner workings of FreeCiv yet to answer that question. But I do know that when your capital is destroyed in Civ2, the distance from capital is set at 33 for all your cities until you've build another palace. FreeCiv seems to work the same way. I destroyed the Mongol capital and most other cities could be bribed much easier. Although there's always the chance your dip gets caught if you've already done something in that city, even when bribing! Civ2 doesn't have this feature.

Needless to say it becomes a bribefest when your capital is destroyed whether it's Civ1/2 or FreeCiv. And that's my final verdict...

	13-05-2000 22:37									#3
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try http://www.freeciv.org/lxr/source/s...nittools.c#L239
and http://www.freeciv.org/lxr/source/s...cityturn.c#1468
and http://www.freeciv.org/lxr/source/s...citytools.c#458

	14-05-2000 04:00									#4
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Thanks Thue,
I found the bribing part, here it is:

code:

/ **************************************************
************************
232  calculate how expensive it is to bribe the unit
233  depends on distance to the capital, and government form
234  settlers are half price
235 
236  Plus, the damage to the unit reduces the price.
237 
238  **************************************************
************************/
239 int unit_bribe_cost(struct unit *punit)240 {  
241   struct government *g = get_gov_iplayer(punit->owner);242   int cost;
243   struct city *capital;244   int dist;
245   int default_hp = get_unit_type(punit->type)->hp;246 
247   cost = (&game.players[punit->owner])->economic.gold+750;
248   capital=find_palace(&game.players[punit->owner]);249   if (capital) {
250     int tmp = map_distance(capital->x, capital->y, punit->x, punit->y);
251     dist=MIN(32, tmp);252   }253   else254     dist=32;
255   if (g->fixed_corruption_distance)
256     dist = MIN(g->fixed_corruption_distance, dist);
257   cost=(cost/(dist+2))*(get_unit_type(punit->type)->build_cost/10);
258   /* FIXME: This is a weird one - should be replaced */
259   if (unit_flag(punit->type, F_CITIES)) 260     cost/=2;261 
262   /* Cost now contains the basic bribe cost.  We now reduce it by:263 
264      cost = basecost/2 + basecost/2 * damage/hp265      266    */267   
268   cost = (int)((float)cost/(float)2 + ((float)punit->hp/(float)default_hp) * ((float)cost/(float)2));
269
270   return cost;
271 }
272 

	14-05-2000 04:24									#5
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This post was full of ****.
[This message has been edited by Kumiorava (edited May 17, 2000).]

	17-05-2000 19:03									#6
	Increase Your PM Length

To get things back on topic, what's the reason for settlers going half-price?

	17-05-2000 19:29									#7
	Increase Your PM Length

No idea
Maybe because settlers are ordinary people far from home, they are less hardy than dedicated soldiers?

	18-05-2000 04:06									#8
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Ooops... looks like I misread your previous post, CapTVK. A bit.
My last post is full of ****. Disregard it.

I wonder what the deal with the settlers is, but if it disturbs you, just edit the source and be done with it.

	20-05-2000 03:23									#9
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Man, through what sort of coloured glasses do you look at posts? Brown ones?

Anyway, about the settlers bit. Yes, I could probably edit this part myself and figure out how to compile it for Windows or Linux the hard way. But that's not the point, the point is that I'm browsing through the source to see what similarities there are between Civ1/2 and FreeCiv.
If I find something strange/different/interesting I'll post comment or question about it, settlers going at a 50% discount is one of them. I just want to know what the reason for this discount, gamebalance? personal taste of the programmer? et...

There's nothing better than constructive criticism....
[This message has been edited by CapTVK (edited May 19, 2000).]

	20-05-2000 15:58									#11
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That mailing list is a pain to search, you have to search it 3 months at a time...

	21-05-2000 12:59									#13
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Reason why settlers has discount is that
bribing settlers shouldn't be
much more expensive than bribing small city

	25-05-2000 08:25									#15
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Ummm...
How about raising the price of the cities, maby?