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Jools is offline Jools
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So, who here plays FreeCiv? Inflate your Upload Space

and what do you think of it?
I think it is hard...

Jools is offline Jools
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Maybe Markos should make (oh yeah, and Dan) a freeciv section. Are there any add ons to the game?

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Jools-Glad you asked. I've tried playing it, but for some reason my computer won't allow me to get past the (adding players stage). What's the command for this? Also, do you know any way/set-up to make free civ run in Windows 95/98? I couldn't get the unix (?) shells to work...

I'd love to delve more deeply into freeciv...specially since it says up to 14 civs can play...just that the FAQ for users basically had the tone of "we don't care about you windows idiots. Stop whinying...this isn't meant for you."

Any help from anyone would be wildly welcomed...

-KhanMan
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Mark von Wagner is offline Mark von Wagner
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Freeciv consists of two programs: the server, which coordinates everything between players and handles the AI, and the client, which human players use to direct the civilization they are playing. To start a single-player Freeciv game under Windows:

1) Start the civserver program -- there should be a start menu entry for this.
2) Select the game options you want in the server.

The next step depends on which version of Freeciv for Windows you are using.
If you are using the Windows-native version:
3) Start the civclient program.
If you are using the X-win version (most people are, since it is better supported):
3) Start your X server (XWin32 is a good X server for Windows), and then start civclient.

4) In the dialog box that comes up for connecting to a server, make sure that the "Host" box contains "localhost". Press the "Connect" button.

5) In the civserver, type the word "start". This will start the game.


To start a multiplayer game (the easy way):
1) Connect to the Internet.
2) Start your X server (if you are using one) and civclient.
3) In the dialog box that comes up, click on the "Metaserver" tab and click the "update" button.
4) To start a new game, select one of the servers that does not have any players on it.
5) Click the "Connect" button.
6) Wait until enough other players have joined the game, then type "/start" in the chat text box to start the game.

To join a game someone else is running, do steps 1-3 above.
4) Select a game from the list that has the status "pregame".
5) Click the "Connect" button.
6) Chat with the other players until the game starts.

Mark

KhanMan is offline KhanMan
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Mark-A Thousand thanks! I'm off to the freeciv site to download the native version, and play loads of freecivin'!

Thanks!

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-KhanMan the paranoid expansionist

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What the hell is freeciv. Is it Civ I? I already have that.

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Mark von Wagner is offline Mark von Wagner
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Freeciv is a freeware game that is similar to Civ II. It is designed to fix many of the problems with Civ II. At its current state, it is good for multiplayer games and scenario design.
See http://www.freeciv.org for more information.

Mark

catullus is offline catullus
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I play it occasionally, have one game running on my Linux box right now. It's pretty good, and continues to improve for each version. My main problem: I've grown used to CivII deity play (and OCC). That strategy won't work on FreeCiv. Expansion is way more important, while riot control is easier (I spend too many shields on warriors and temples early on).
AI is good, but doesn't handle diplomacy (yet). While it's designed for MP (last CVS version allows up to 126 players, IIRC), I think it still lacks the macro-management and UI to allow fast game play.
I would recommend setting up a Linux box (or an Amiga) for playing FreeCiv. All development is done on Unix, and I haven't heard much good about the Windows versions. A java version is in the works, that might be more promising than a native windows compile.

C.

Olof Palme is offline Olof Palme
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I have a problem with it, Mark, i betcha you could answer it.
I use GNOME, and I can't save any of my games. A simple "couldn't save bla bla" message comes up in the server shell. Any tips?

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Mark von Wagner is offline Mark von Wagner
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The only thing I can think of is to make sure that you have permission to save files in the directory you are trying to save to.

Mark

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I took a look at it on my Linux machine once, but didn't play around with it too much. Guess I am just too used to the other interface.

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bump - just discovered these were here (but had timed out of my display so I've fixed it by bumping!

Thue is offline Thue
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Originally posted by catullus on 03-20-2000 03:48 AM
I play it occasionally, have one game running on my Linux box right now. It's pretty good, and continues to improve for each version. My main problem: I've grown used to CivII deity play (and OCC). That strategy won't work on FreeCiv. Expansion is way more important, while riot control is easier (I spend too many shields on warriors and temples early on).
AI is good, but doesn't handle diplomacy (yet). While it's designed for MP (last CVS version allows up to 126 players, IIRC), I think it still lacks the macro-management and UI to allow fast game play.
I would recommend setting up a Linux box (or an Amiga) for playing FreeCiv. All development is done on Unix, and I haven't heard much good about the Windows versions. A java version is in the works, that might be more promising than a native windows compile.

C.


Actually the patch to allow up to 126 players never got into CVS, because it didn't work properly I think
But just 2 days ago I checked in the patch to raise the number from 14 to 30. (that number is limited by the lenght of a player bitvector, ie 32. The last 2 players are reserved for barbarians)

CapTVK is offline CapTVK
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I've played it on Linux but I'm playtesting the windows version now.(CVS ver 1.10.1) Yes Thue, Fog of War IS installed and activated!
At the moment I recommend the use of the demoversion of X-win32 for the X-server. It's a snap to install and you can use it for 2 hours without any hassle.

Thue is offline Thue
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And I recomment linux mandrake; it's a snap to install and it works for many more hours than windows

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I'll have to go with Slackware on this one. It's the only distro of linux that I managed to get working on my spare machine, and even then I haven't got X-windows working properly.


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adaMada is offline adaMada
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Woa, Thue, you finally got your own title! Nice! How much did you pay markg and/or danq? A title, a forum… Tell us the secret of eturnal forum happyness!!

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Thue is offline Thue
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Kumiorava is offline Kumiorava
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Any distro of Linux beats the crap out of Windoze and MacOS any time. But if you happen to be a total Unix bimbo, go with SuSE Linux. It's so easy, that the mac-crazed admin of my school managed to get it run on the same HD with WinNT without my assistance, X and everything! If you are any dumber than him, I truly feel sorry for you.

No what we need is a board to set up Freeciv games and an Apolyton based metaserver to keep track of them! So how about that new section, admins? Is it coming along or what?

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Originally posted by Kumiorava on 05-06-2000 12:44 AM
But if you happen to be a total Unix bimbo, go with SuSE Linux.
easier than mandrake?
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No what we need is a board to set up Freeciv games
other than this one? will this have so much traffic it will needs it's own forum?
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and an Apolyton based metaserver to keep track of them!
dont know if it is possible...
the requirements(in cpu power, memory, etc)?

Thue is offline Thue
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Why would we need an extra metaserver? The one at www.freeciv.org works ok, and having only one means that all the players are together at one place.

Kumiorava is offline Kumiorava
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Urgh, looks like I got cornered.

MarkG, I've never tried mandrake, so I wouldn't know. I guess choosing a distro is a question of taste. No point in fighting over those.

On the extra board and meta one, you are both right Thue & MarkG. I made that post pretty late my time, so I wasn't thinking very much.

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I've played a few games of FreeCiv.

Ive seen both Mandrake and Suse install and both of their install's are very easy (assuming you have supported hardware). Personally I recommend Mandrake, as it gave me more options than Suse, on install, plus it can dynamically resize your windos partition. (not sure if Suse can do this)

Oh and Mandrake's Mailing lists are extremely helpful to newbies.

catullus is offline catullus
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Let's not start a distro war already, eh? I'm using Mandrake now, but have used Debian before. An extremely well-driven and friendly community, the best installer (first dselect, then apt even better), and better for customizing for low-grade boxes. A developer release of Freeciv broke the installation, though...
Most people use RedHat, on which Mandrake is based. The next distro I will try is Corel, that one got a lot of nice reviews.

Stability:

Linux Mandrake release 6.1 (Helios)
Kernel 2.2.13-7mdk on an i586
login: stig
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Last login: Thu May 4 12:21:44 on tty2
You have mail.
[stig@mandrake stig]$ uptime
9:07am up 100 days, 17:55, 4 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00

Looks good, right? 100 days since a power black-out booted the box last time. Not too high load on it, though...

C.

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Stop this silly distribution war already, Freeciv doesn't need Linux. In fact, it's easier to install on FreeBSD, and I've also seen it on Solaris, IRIX, HP/UX, Amiga, OS/2, and other platforms. Main development happens on Unix variants, mainly on Linux,
so you Windows users sometimes lag behind a little.

Kumiorava is offline Kumiorava
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A little...

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ok i followed the instruction up above from mark , but stil lno go.. I activated the Freecivserver but it just pops up a DOS window that doeasnt do much except run through a little batch file then stop. No where for me t oenter anything as you sqay , so i cant get past step one....

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Are you sure you have the right version of Freeciv. If you're using XWin32, make sure you have the X-win release of Freeciv, not the native Windows one. If you have trouble configuring XWin32, just do a search for some documentation for it. It shouldn't be too hard to find some online.

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Well I jsut downlaoded the Windows edition of Freeciv today and that one works well, but i still cant get the Xwin to work... Too complicasted for us game players come non programeers, thats why Billy invented Windows, for us computer illiterates...

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Nono -
MAC is for the computer illiterate
Linux is for the computer literate
windows is for the ... ?

 
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