15-01-2001 20:48									#1
	Just for the civ 2 users... Tired of ads?

I made this screenshot:
http://hjem.get2net.dk/thue_janus_kristensen/civ2.png

Of course we cannot use the civ 2 tiles in the official freeciv, but it was still much fun seeing them in action.

	16-01-2001 07:55									#2
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1. Are you planning to use the graphics from people.gif?

2. Looks like there is a city name drawing bug.

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	16-01-2001 17:34									#3
	Tired of ads?

1) Eventually ; it is not very hard to do.
2) Don't you see the same thing in civ 2 when you move a unit across a cityname?

	16-01-2001 20:22									#5
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Freeciv shouldn't be associated with copyright infringement in any way, so no. I would be the first to insist you remove it if you put it up on apolyton.

However, to be able to use the civ 2 modpacks which are freely distributable I have kept the gfx file format compatible; currently all you have to do is to replace the background colors with transparent and copy the FoW tile, and you can plug in your tileset; even those two might go away. So if you own a copy of civ 2 you are free to use the tiles from there.
But with all the mods there must be enough graphics to scrape together an alternative tileset for those who don't like hires.

	18-01-2001 01:14									#6
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Looks pretty good Thue, it's getting very close to civ2 now, and beyond

How do you manage the graphics overlays? In civ2 there are two terrain sets, one with (terrain1.gif) with the ground tiles and one (terrain2.gif) with areas (mountains, hills etc..) facing different directions to create realistic looking mountain ranges etc..

How did you handle it?

	18-01-2001 04:09									#7
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Well, I look at the terrain of the adjacent tiles, pick the right overlay from terrain2, and then draw the pixels from the overlay that is not background onto the tile from terrain1. Did that sound simple? It is . Other parts like figuring out where on the screen to draw and how to handle overlap were less simple.

Use the source if you want to know the gory details! http://hjem.get2net.dk/thue_janus_k...isomet.diff.bz2 . Of special interest is probably fill_tile_sprite_array in client/tilespec.c , pixmap_put_tile() in client/gui-gtk/mapview.c and maybe updata_map_canvas() in client/gui-gtk/mapview.c
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	18-01-2001 04:31									#8
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My programming experience is limited to pascal (and a little python recently), most of it is mumbo jumbo to me. I'll take your word for it.

	18-01-2001 06:48									#9
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I can put together an original-artwork-only mod for you if you so desire.

BTW, are you planning text-file compatibility or backwards-compatibility?

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	18-01-2001 19:04									#10
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That would be great! Freeciv already has 2 non-isometric tilesets in the standard distribution, and can choose among them on startup, so it will be no problem to have 2 isometric tilesets in the main distribution too.

Note that we currently only use the disorder pic and the explosion from icons.gif. Also, as mentioned, people.gif is not used yet. And city.gif is not used at all.

It would be much preferable to have the graphics under the GPL like the rest of freeciv. (mindseye agreed to contribute hires under the GPL.)

	19-01-2001 10:14									#12
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What about the windows version?? Are there 2 tilesets for this version too??? I never noticed any other ones. Or should I ask the windows guy? I know the windows version isn't finished yet because my Diplomats don't do anything!!!!! Anyway....I'm sure he will be finished soon.

My program is nearing final completion. I may wait until the Windows guy has the final version finished to see if I can add anymore options. Right now I'm trying to write the help documentation for the program.

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	19-01-2001 10:33									#13
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Try starting the client as "civclient --tiles=engels"

	26-01-2001 15:29									#15
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Thue,

Alot of us (well, all of us I hope ) have the original version of Civ2 at home. What if we had the tool to convert those files to the Freeciv format ourselves? That way there wouldn't be any problem with the GPL. People could import there own graphic files if they wish.

	26-01-2001 16:20									#16
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Not many tools needed. Just replace the background colors woth transparent and save as .xpm (Which may be a problem for windows users). Then you want to copy the fallout icon from the freeciv hires tiles into the same position.

The easy way is then to just replace the hires graphics files in data/hires with the civ 2 ones.
If you are feeling creative you can also create a new directory data/civ2gfx and put the civ 2 gfx files in there, copy the *.spec files from data/hires/ into data/civ2gfx/ . Then go through the *.spec files in the new directory and simply change all occurences of "hires" to "civ2gfx". Lastly, copy data/hires.tilespec to data/civ2gfx.tilespec, and change all occurences of "hires" in that file to "civ2gfx".
Now you can start the client as "civclient --tiles=civ2gfx".
(this descriptions of course works for all civ 2 tilesets.)

	09-02-2001 19:44									#17
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I am trying to get the client to use the isometric code, but everytime I run it it say the client does not support it.
(159)-> ./civ --tiles=hires
1: Client does not support isometric tilesets. Using default tileset instead.
2: Using fallback resources - which is OK
(160)->

I have the latest code 1.11.5 from the cvs repository and I have the hires tileset.
So what am I missing? Is there a compile option that I missed?
Thanks.

	10-02-2001 01:16									#18
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rur, the isometric tiles only work for the GTK+ client at the moment. What platform and client are you using?

	10-02-2001 04:20									#19
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Your right, I had problems installing GTK on my machine, long story. It's there but I think freeciv didn't catch it, so it defaulted to xaw.
Let me try to fix that.
I am using Red Hat 6.0 and I thought it was the gtk client, but I bet it was the xaw client.

Thanks.

	11-02-2001 05:56									#20
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nice screenshot!

	18-02-2001 07:38									#21
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I've converted the civ2 terrain files and units file, but what do you do with the cities and icons? Hires seems to have a center row of city tiles, do you need those? The civ2 wonder icons are also at different places(it seems) than the hires tileset's.

P.S. The way the minimap and main window are off kilter can really mess you up when you're trying to send units a long distance.

	18-02-2001 14:25									#22
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No, the middle row is not used.

And will people please make new topics instead of putting everything into this one thread...