07-11-2000 05:02									#1
	I think I've just been stabbed Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

The W01 builds just came in:

Austria
A Vie
A Bud

England
F Lvp

France
F Mar

Germany
F Kie
F Ber
A Mun

Italy
F Rom

Russia
A Mos
A War

Turkey
A Ank

Ok, here's the map before builds, I think. http://www.geocities.com/andyb1414/WM2004.gif

Now, see my position? I'm about to lose Norway to Russia. There's a fleet in Kiel as well as Denmark. France's gloating in my face.

I'm considering taking drastic action - switching sides from Germany to France and doing these moves:
F Lon S F Nwy-Nth
F Nwy-Nth
F Lvp-Cly
A Wal-Yor

The advantages of this is that I'd quickly get back into the North Sea, and I could protect Wales or whatever should France decide to move to the Channel and I'm thinking about letting him do that or at least move to Picardy. From there, depending on how the battle for Burgundy goes, I could grab for Belgium or at least hold off the troops. Moreover, I could go into the Norwegian Sea and take Norway back, and maybe even more. I'm in the perfect position to make the fastest change from the south to the east that anyone's ever seen.

Hmm? I feel like kicking myself right now...

	07-11-2000 05:35									#2
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yech, reminds me of my position
I think it's time to do some ass-kissing...

	07-11-2000 11:53									#3
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Well, in any case, I just e-mailed everyone except Turkey. At least that should get some responses back.

	07-11-2000 15:55									#4
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Well, Germany´s builds don´t necessarily mean he´s going against you. He could use them against R, of course.

However, I believe switching alliances is the right choice even if G does not stab you. G is growing too fast for you.

First, you should easily be able to convince Russia that G is a big threat to R and that, from all you know, G plans to kick R out of Swe (wich seems plausible enough). Especially that F Ber should worry R a lot. Then you should be able to get R to agree on working together against G in Scandinavia, namely support each other in Swe/Nor. I would offer R Nor for the future in return for his helping you into Den.

I don´t know your press, but from the map and builds I would assume that it will be easier to get R to work with you then France.

France might be working with G already. the fact that both G and F built fleets would make me thinking.. Nonetheless, even if F and G have reached some understanding, I think France will still worry about G and can be convinced to work with you. Maybe you can get him to move: F Bre - Pic and Bur - Ruh.

If your feeling is that both F and R are against G, then I´d openly attack G (F Lon - Nth)

Your advantage may be that, when you get R to ally with you, France may be convinced by R.

[This message has been edited by Sahib (edited November 07, 2000).]