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LordStone1 is offline LordStone1
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Jan 1970
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AUSTRIA

A Ser-Bul
F Gre S A Ser-Bul
A Tri-Ser
A Bud S A Tri-Ser
A Vie-Tri

ENGLAND

F Liverpool-Clyde
F London S F Norway-North Sea
A Wales-Yorkshire
F Norway-North Sea

FRANCE

A(Spa) – Por
F(Mar) – GOL
A(Bur) – Mar
F(Bre) - ENG

GERMANY

f DEN holds
f KIE – HOL
f BER – KIE
a HOL – BEL
a BEL – PIC
a MUN - BUR

ITALY

F Tunis -- Western Mediterranean Sea
F Roma – Tyrrehenian Sea
A Venice -- Holds
A Piedmont S Burgundy - Marseilles

RUSSIA

[F Swe S Ger F Den-Ska] Invalid. No such order.
A StP-Fin
A Mos-StP
A War-Ukr
[F Sev-Bla] Bounce with F Bla.
A Rum S Austrian A Ser-Bul

TURKEY

A Ank-Arm
[A Bul S Austria A Ser-Rum] Invalid. No such order.
Annihilated by A Ser sup. by A Rum & F Gre.
[F Bla S Austria A Ser-Rum] Invalid. No such order.
A Con S A Bul


Ok. It's completely obvious that Russia intends to take Norway, so I moved out of it and thus gained a strong hold on the North Sea that'll be tough to break for a long time. Russia thinks Germany is allied with him, as shown by the supported move to Ska. I don't know if Germany's too interested in it himself, but his move of all his fleets westward is a clear attack on England.

It's a shame that France just let Germany pour into Paris like this. I'm going to lose Norway, so I'll just disband A Yor, but with my F Cly-Edi, I can support my hold on the North Sea unless Russia moves F Swe-Nor and if he does so, he's dumb.

I doubt I am going to win this game since France's about to fall and G/R are too strong. Any comment?

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That was spring 02, right?

I don´t see how you could possibly survive, if GR continue their attack. You may hold ou a little longer disbanding A Yor, because you can only hold NTH with three fleets. But even then, France falls and your back is exposed.

For the immediate move you could consider:
F Cly - NWG
F NTH - Hel
F Lon - NTH

This would probably give G NTH this fall. But he´ll lose it again in next spring and cannot take it again during 1903, that buys you time. And with this move, G will not be able to build in Kie.

I suggest you talk to Italy and drastically warn him about RG. Same with A and R. Try to make them believe that a German solo is likely in this game, if Germany is not stopped early. And at the same time warn Russia of the same. Your only hope may be to survive as a russian vasall for some time.

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This is what Germany said to me....

quote:

Adam,

Before you leap to giant conclusions please have another look at the
map.....

I promised I would attack France and I did. I covered HOL because it was
clear to me that you didn't trust me. And yes, I moved BER west, again
because I wasn't clear what you were doing.

I did not attack you at all - I could have gone to SKA - like Russia
obviously expected - I could have gone to NTH - I could have gone to
HEL. I didn't go to any of them. I held in DEN and made a safe set of
moves which make it absolutely clear that my target is France not
England.

Please don't jump to false conclusions - I sent 3 notes to you before
the deadline and you didn't answer any of them - for all I knew you and
France could have been ganging up on me. My moves were intended to be
(and were) safe. Put yourself in my position and ask yourself what you'd
have done ?

Unfortunately I'm short of time this morning because I'm running in a
charity relay race soon. I'll get back to you again tomorrow.

Best regards,
David.


hmm?

LordStone1 is offline LordStone1
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More press from Germany:

quote:

Sorry I was so rushed on Friday.

I can see from the Press that NTH is English ;-) but I didn't even try
and go there and still couldn't. I haven't made an attacking move
against you. I moved KIE to HOL to cover the gap left by moving against
France. And hedged my bets by moving BER to KIE. My moves left me with
flexibility. But no-one notices that unless they look hard.

Right now I have a choice - attack you (as Russia wants) or attack
Russia (the fleets can easily reverse). It doesn't make a lot of
difference to me but you've given him NOR which makes attacking him
harder for you. To attack Russia effectively requires a commitment from
you that involves risks (NTH) which I doubt you're ready to take
(although all the articles say that when you're in trouble the only way
out is to take the high risk/high reward option). If you are then I'm
ready to look at it but if you're not then I'll probably take the easy
option and just join Russia.

I can't be more honest and straight-forward than that can I ?

Best regards,
David.



Germany's campaigning hard to get me back on his side, which means that he needs me in some way.

I suppose I could still make a limited attack on Russia, more so since I have a greater and safer presence on the North Sea, but still... I think I'm screwed either way I go...

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Good, go:

Cly - NWG
Nth - Nor
Lon - Nth

Tell that to Germany. Tell him it´s a clear commitment because it opens NTH to his stab. Tell him if he is willing to work with you he should attack Swe, hoping you bounce in Nor.
And tell him that the F Lon - Nth cannot work and is obviouly only to show France your good intentions.

Tell him that if G keeps his promises, NTH will be a DMZ afterwards. But if he does not, that you would fight him to the last, rather opening you SCs to Russia and France then him.

Maybe you´re back in the game, good luck!

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