13-11-2000 08:01									#1
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Ok, now I am in a situation. the RI and EG alliances are pressing me to turn on one in favor of the other.

What should I do. I know that Germany is supposed to be essential to my survival, however I feel that I can make a good run without Germany at this point. R and I have been completely hyonest while G has been concealing some stuff.

What should I do?

	13-11-2000 10:47									#2
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I'm assuming you are France, right? It would help if you could provide a map so that we can see what units are close to what units and so on. It's also about tactics.

	14-11-2000 10:18									#3
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LS1: He's Austria.

	14-11-2000 01:16									#4
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SUPPLY CENTRE OWNERSHIP AND UNIT POSITIONS :
Turkey:
4 SC-s: Smy Ank Con Bul
3 Armies: Con Bul Ank
1 Fleet: Bla

Russia:
5 SC-s: Sev War Mos StP Rum
3 Armies: Rum Ukr War
2 Fleets: Arm Bot

Italy:
4 SC-s: Nap Rom Ven Tun
2 Armies: Tyr Pie
2 Fleets: Tun Rom

Germany:
5 SC-s: Mun Ber Kie Hol Den
3 Armies: Ruh Hol Mun
2 Fleets: Den Kie

France:
5 SC-s: Mar Par Bre Spa Por
3 Armies: Por Gas Par
2 Fleets: Spa(South) Bre

England:
4 SC-s: Lon Liv Edi Nwy
1 Army: Yor
3 Fleets: Nth Nwy Lon

Austria:
5 SC-s: Bud Tri Vie Ser Gre
4 Armies: Ser Tri Vie Bud
1 Fleet: Gre

	17-11-2000 01:37									#5
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MidShip - you are looking great, Turkey and Russia will be battling it out around the Black Sea, and France looks like it will be giving Italy reason to ignore you very soon. And while you say EG are allied, it appears France is too - or at least friendly with EG. I (Turkey) am facing a triple western alliance in my game. And that bodes well for the lone victorious eastern power since that western triple should break up long before they can focus on you or me.

EG will soon attack N Russia in force (hopefully) instead of a less effective attack on you. That will open Russia up for you to attack, but you dont want to get caught trying to wage war on Turkey with any western alliance breathing down your neck. So I suggest you help Russia against Turkey, EG will pressure the Russians in the north so any benefits Russia gets from Turkey will be lost. You need to grow at Turkey's expense first, then after Russia is weakened because of EG, he will shift northward leaving you the opening you need - keep Russia alive only as long as he serves your purpose. You need to destroy or severly reduce Turkey - even if this helps Russia more than you in the short term. Count on EG to take away from Russia so you will reign supreme in the east. If you can turn this game into a 5 way with you alone in the east, you stand a good chance of winning. The west will break up; a weak Italy will serve as a buffer. You need to dismantle Turkey (with Russia) before Russia loses its north (Warsaw, Moscow, StP) to EG. You dont want a weak Turkey getting help from EG swinging around your NE.

So, ally with Russia and take out Turkey - count on EG to take out Russia's north. Once Turkey is no threat, ally with England against Russia, then Germany. Keep Italy alive, but hopefully weak, to fend off France.
Then you can stab Italy and ally with England against France. But when you have allied with England against Germany, make sure you get at least Munich or Berlin in such a way you can keep it. You will find the map divided along a SW to NE line - and England will stalemate you with France and Iberia under E's control.
And E will have StP, so in order for you to win, you will need part of Germany - allowing France this stalemate line stopped me (Italy) from soloing last year