17-11-2000 06:58									#1
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I'm Turkey:

It's kinda funny, I told my ally, Russia, Austria (my enemy) and Italy that the west had formed a 3-way alliance and none of them took me seriously. Now, the day after the most recent moves were posted, all three have sent me messages about the impending doom heading their way from the west. Of course, being Turkey, I'm looking forward to this storm from the west. I get to sit back and watch Italy, Austria, and Russia disintegrate while I pick up the eastern centers with the greatest of ease The only question is timing - when to take advantage of that fateful turn when the western alliance collapses and I get to ally with someone far from base.

The first turn I allied completely with Russia with DMZ's in Armenia and the Black Sea. We weren't too concerned that others would see this as an alliance given the fluidity of this game. This allowed me to
get my Ankara fleet to Constantinople and the Aegean after 1 year. With a new fleet in Smyrna, I was able to shutdown any chance of Italy pulling the Lepanto - my only concern, had Austria and Russia allied against me, my days were numbered anyway. Fortunately, the west did ally with France heading for Italy - no more IA Lepanto alliance

Now Italy is asking to have Greece since he needs the build to ward off France. Austria is offering to support me into Rumania - an alliance. And Russia, my ally, is doomed. What to do, what to do? If I help Italy and the west breaks up too soon, Italy will become the monster I feared from the start. I want to keep my alliance with Russia, but he is dying fast. Austria is just trying to break us up and probably made Russia an offer to stab me.

	17-11-2000 07:56									#2
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Bah, be greety and grab the SCs while they're available
Take Gre and offer to move EMe to Ion to support Tun or something. Italy has no real leverage against you so he might even let you have Ion without a fight
Anyway if Italy gets Gre, chances are he'll keep a unit stationed there so his anti-french defenses won't be strengthened by him doing so...
maybe after you get Gre build a Black Sea fleet and strike out at Rum and Gre.
If all goes well you might be able to hit 8 SCs soon, and once Turkey's that big they're pretty much indistructable
Of course with the current position you have, it'd be hard for things to go wrong

hmmm, Austria is offering to support you into Rum without demanding Ser back? That sounds too good to pass up

maybe just join the western triple as completely as possible and try to keep it alive as long as possibe. Once it falls apart you can smash west into the central med and get in a very good position to end well.

	17-11-2000 09:46									#3
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Oops! I forgot that part, yes, Austria will support me into Rumania only if I give him Serbia. And that would weaken any attempt I make at Greece in the future. But it would allow me to try for Sevastapol. This may sound unbelievable, but I really feel a sense of loyalty toward Russia and will only stab him if I think my survival requires it.

	17-11-2000 09:54									#4
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Hmm in that case then I'd try to get an army into Gre and then plow into Austria the old-fashioned way...
Italy and Russia will be fighting the west far more than Austria so you'll slow em down a bit while you grow...
there's no way that Germany will reach Rum and Sev before the triple breaks down to they won't be going anywhere...

	18-11-2000 10:04									#5
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Yup!

	22-11-2000 03:11									#6
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Yeah, just take Greece and Serbia. I assume there's an A Tri missing on the map, right? Or was the Serbian army crushed between some elaborate set of bounces?

With Greece and Serbia you will have 6 centers, you can offer Italy help with your fleets, en lieu of Greece, and tell him that it is better than giving him Greece, because then you'd have two fleets that would be wasted. This way you can contribute directly to the fight against the west. Be sure to remind him that if he falls you are next, and so you are more than happy to help him by supporting his fleets, and have no intention of stabbing him.