19-02-2000 07:58									#1
	Diplomats & The Great Wall Support Apolyton

Can Diplomats sabotage the "walls" from the Great Wall?


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	19-02-2000 08:20									#2
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No.

Graag

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	19-02-2000 08:29									#3
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nope... makes great wall tough before metallurgy

	19-02-2000 10:42									#4
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Wait, but cities can have city walls and the Great Wall. You can't sabatoge the Great Wall, but you can get their respective city walls I believe.

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	19-02-2000 10:55									#5
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Yah, Mao. I often build city walls even when I have GW, if I or someone else is close to Mettalurgy. And it is possible to sabotage these, but I've never seen anyone try.

Graag

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	19-02-2000 12:01									#6
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i know it can't be done but what does it say when your dip tries to sabatoge the great wall cities..... i guess if no improvements are there it just sabotages what ever you were building

	19-02-2000 13:50									#7
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Yup, I remember watching someone sabotage the same city every turn, destroying all 4 shields of progress on a pikeman, and wondering why he was never destroying my wall. I told him in the end, he had forgotten I had GW.

Graag

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	19-02-2000 15:23									#8
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If you have a city wall - in addition to the GW wonder - is the defence of your units in the city multiplied up by 9?
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[This message has been edited by Scouse Gits (edited February 19, 2000).]

	20-02-2000 10:17									#9
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N0!... But you will be happy to have those walls when GW expires

One classic MP trick it to time a massive attack on the turn you develop the science needed to expire it

	20-02-2000 05:13									#10
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thx for the replies

Sire, our city walls have suddenly and mysteriously vanished!!! We were just fixing to pour the boiling oil on the dreaded foes and...
Not to worry lads, it wasn't ment to be permanent anyways. Masons front and center quick!!!
(an illustration of rushbuying walls during an attack as GW expires)

an army of masons to build em, and one dip to tear a breach in em.

	20-02-2000 21:38									#11
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In scenarios, I have yet to see as heavy a wonder as the Great Wall (or its renamed equivalent). It basically fulfills the duties another Wonder (United Nations: force ceasefires) and renders all but the most concerted attacks ineffective.

Combined with the other "Chinese" style Wonder, Sun Tzu's War Academy, a Civ can really go on the warpath, conquering cities with eerily-veteran units, and rendering them un-re-capturable with the instantaneous wall that erects itself around them.

This is causing merry hell with my Star Wars scenario, I can tell you.

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