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Jay Bee
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Valladolid, CA
Jan 1970
time: 06:14
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Wow, Spain has been engaged in so many military conflicts.... I'd pick two above all, Lepanto and Bailen. Lepanto meant the end of the Turkish threat in the Mediterranean sea, and Bailen was the battle that showed the world that Napoleon was not unbeatable.
But if you extend your question to the Hispanic world I'd have to go with the US-Mexican War of the XIX century, the war that took so many lands away from the Hispanic world. Good thing that we Aztlanites are slowingly getting them back 
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"Our community extends beyond national frontiers. Whether it is an Argentinian or a Spaniard, a Chilean or a Mexican, we all know as children that our national language is the language of many nations, and that it was born in Spain many centuries ago... without it, our people would not exist"
Octavio Paz, Mexican Writer. Nobel Laureate 1990, Cervantes Prize 1982
[This message has been edited by Jay Bee (edited January 23, 2001).]
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Why do you all forget... Suipacha, Maipu, Chacabuco, Cancha Rayada, San Lorenzo and countless others? 
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Jay Bee
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Valladolid, CA
Jan 1970
time: 06:14
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Originally posted by cpoulos on 01-24-2001 08:06 AM
Well, you got me! The fight for Tenochtitlan is astounding! A handful of spainish soldiers, surrounded by thousands of screaming aztecs, and what does Cortez do? He ATTACKS AND WINS!!!! If there is a better feat of arms in history, I don't know of it(but you never know, and I'm sure someone will tell me different).
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Yeah, it was pretty amazing but the Spanish army at that time was the best of the world and the Aztecs knew
nothing about military strategy. What Pizarro did with the Incas was even more astounding imho. Regrettably, when you praise those events people usually regard you as an imperialistic guy with no concern for human rights and blah, blah, blah... and that's not the point at all.
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I love Bernal Diaz Del Castillo's book on the subject, even if it is slanted to the spanish side.
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I loved this book! I read it from the beginning to the end before starting work on the Mexico scenario.
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Hey Jay Bee, do you like these kind of threads? I could think of a few more if you like.
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Go ahead, please. Me and the Spanish gang really enjoy them!
PS. You seem to know my scens well  What is the one you like more?
PPS. Are you Greek, American or both?
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"Our community extends beyond national frontiers. Whether it is an Argentinian or a Spaniard, a Chilean or a Mexican, we all know as children that our national language is the language of many nations, and that it was born in Spain many centuries ago... without it, our people would not exist"
Octavio Paz, Mexican Writer. Nobel Laureate 1990, Cervantes Prize 1982
[This message has been edited by Jay Bee (edited January 24, 2001).]
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Chris 62
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But I'm feeling MUCH better now
Jan 2001
time: 00:14
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Originally posted by Jay Bee on 01-24-2001 08:17 AM
PS. You seem to know my scens well What is the one you like more?
PPS. Are you Greek, American or both?
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A few answers from my humble(Yeah,that's a laugh!)self: I love many of your scenarios(but not all, but that's for another time), but my favorite is Al-Andalus. I got a better understanding of the Reconquista from that scenario then in four years in college. I even won it as the Navarres(I didn't post it because I cheated: I changed the number of units under fundy that are free from 0 to 10!). Sneaky, but loads of fun nonetheless! My father is Greek, and my mother is(gasp, don't say it on the spanish site!) English. I have been a sneaky (I.E. not registered), watcher of apoly for years, but to humble(That again?!?) to join untill recently. I'm the guy that always asks for a Peninsular war scenario in your guestbook! One other thing about the topic(What was it again?): Cortez's victory cannot be diminished by the fact that the Aztecs did not understand metalworking. This is a tactical advantage of some measure, but men must still fight with a will to win agaisnt overwhelming odds. Remember the Italian failure in Ethopia in the 19th century, and the defeat of the british at Isandlwana against the Zulus(Roake's drift is another story). Now a question from me: What are you working on now?
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Actually, Pizarro and Cortes did little... they allied themselves with the oppressed tribes (oppressed by Incas and Aztecs respectively) and let them have it out.
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Jay Bee
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Valladolid, CA
Jan 1970
time: 06:14
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Originally posted by The Hogfather on 01-25-2001 06:44 PM
jeje... parece que le eche sal a una viaja herida con las batallas que mencione... 
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Well... not really, je, je. Lo que pasa es que ninguno tenemos ni p. idea de lo que paso en esas batallas... es que tenemos tan mala memoria, je, je
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"Our community extends beyond national frontiers. Whether it is an Argentinian or a Spaniard, a Chilean or a Mexican, we all know as children that our national language is the language of many nations, and that it was born in Spain many centuries ago... without it, our people would not exist"
Octavio Paz, Mexican Writer. Nobel Laureate 1990, Cervantes Prize 1982
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Fiera
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Proud Member of the Spanish Gang
Mar 2000
time: 06:14
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Originally posted by Waku on 01-29-2001 04:53 PM
I just want to include between the most important battles, the battle of Pavia, where Francois I King of France was taken prisoner by Charles I of Spain (1525).
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Yes, I agree, Pavía is surely our most brilliant victory, but, regretably, it wasn't that influential, so that's why I didn't listed it before (and because I was sure that somebody else would list it)...
It's a pity, but Pavía wasn't the decisive victory over France that it could have been...
PD: ¡Bienvenido al foro, Waku, espero que te pases para echarnos unas charlas en español de vez en cuando, que es lo que más se agradece...
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