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Waku is offline Waku
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Most of spanish here probably know this song by Juan Perro about Alonso El Joraique. But who was this guy?
I've been searching but I've only found info of a natural park in Almería.

What I understand from the lyrics is that:

-He was spanish (Alonso)
-kind of bandit (or pirate)
-fighting against Philip II in the muslim band because an old argument of land????

Is this only a legend?

What do you know kIndal? you're from Almería, aren't you?


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Hmm... I for one can't help... I don't even know the song...

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Here's the lyric:


Tus soldados, Rey Felipe
No querrán poblar la tierra
Mientras ande con su gente
El Joraique por la sierra

Cada noche los cristianos
Con los ojos muy abiertos
Velan por no despertar
En el reino de los muertos

Nadie alcanza a descansar
De su carga al fin del día
Porque está suelto el Joraique
Por los montes de Almería

Dicen que Alonso el Joraique
Con las sombras tiene un trato
Que se cierran cuando salen
los soldados a rebato

Dicen que la media luna
le prestó su blanca espada
Y antes de llegar el alba
Él se la volvió encarnada

El Joraique prometía
Yo daré fin a la guerra
Si me dais la llave que abre
La cancela de mi tierra

El monfí robó una barca
A la mar echó su pena
Dejó nueve pescadores
Peces muertos en la arena

El Joraique allá en Tetuán
Armó su negra goleta
Ya llegó al cabo de Gata
Ya no duerme un alma quieta

No soñaron nunca más
Las mujeres de Almería
Que se les llevó el Joraique
El ensueño a Berbería


You know perhaps it's only a Juan Perro's Paranoia, his lyrics are always quite cryptic and strange. But in fact there is a place near Cape of Gata named Joraique.

The song isn't bad Fiera (try napster), thanks anyway.

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Si, si que soy de ALMERÍA (el pecho lleno de orgullo)
La verdad es que la preguntita se las trae.
Se que hay un peñon, en un pueblo de la Sierra Nevada almeriense, Dolar(un pan de pueblo de muerte y un restaurante cojonudo), que se llama el peñon del Joraique, esta a unos 2 km del pueblo y tiene unos 2000 metros de altura, que yo sepa no hay ningun sitio en Cabo de Gata que se llame asi (es otro parque natural distinto). He buscado un poco por ahi y segun parece es una leyenda local de un tipo que le quitaron las tierras y se rebeló contra Felipe, lo que pasa es que tambien he leido algo sobre reinos de taifas en la historia, lo que no tendria mucho sentido...pero en fin, espero que te haya servido

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Gracias kIndal.

A ver si encuentro algo.

PD: Si algún día por casualidad descubres algo ya sabes (la p#~etera canción me tiene superintrigao)

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Sí qu'ha llovío.

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por cierto te acuerdas que hace un puñao de tiempo me preguntaste sobre El Joraique? si sigues interesao he encontrao un puñaoi de informaacion en un loibro, si te interesa algo en particular te podria miraar algo...


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cojins!! como te tenga que escrbir todo me voy a hacer mu viejo, mira, lo que hare sera escanearte las hojas del libro y tu te las lees tranquilamente, vale?

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aqui estan las paginas del libro, si no las puedes leer bien, dimelo (o a quien le interese) y se las mando al email).

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bueno si teneis paciencia de leeroslo todo espero que os haya gustado, y manolo espero que hayas saciado tu sed de conocimientos del tema

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Toy emosionao chacho, nunca crei yo que iba a conseguir tantísima informeichon sobre el menda.

GRACIAS
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MERCI BEAUCOUP





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Gracias. Yo me hubiera muerto antes que escanear todo eso

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Jodé, kIndal, acabas de quitarle el título de suministrador de información oficial del reino, digo del foro, a Waku.

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Lo que me complace sobremanera

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Yo me hubiera muerto antes que escanear todo eso

Bueno, Kindal ha tardado un año y medio...

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Jodé, kIndal, acabas de quitarle el título de suministrador de información oficial del reino, digo del foro, a Waku.


que va, lo mio es en libros, y Waku sigue siendo el mas rapido en la red

¿puede ser que otra thread (hace mucho tiempo)hablamos sobre cual era la mejor informacion si la de los libros o la del internes?

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Bueno, Kindal ha tardado un año y medio...


lazy kIndal

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¿puede ser que otra thread (hace mucho tiempo)hablamos sobre cual era la mejor informacion si la de los libros o la del internes?


Me suena mucho. ¿Puede ser en una thread con preguntas tipo trivial de historia que empezo Fiera?

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Si no recuerdo mal el quid de la cuestión era que aunque Fiera y yo estábamos de acuerdo en que internet no era hoy por hoy un buen sistema de difusión cultural, él sostenía que nunca lo sería y yo que sí que lo sería algún día.

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Si no recuerdo mal el quid de la cuestión era que aunque Fiera y yo estábamos de acuerdo en que internet no era hoy por hoy un buen sistema de difusión cultural, él sostenía que nunca lo sería y yo que sí que lo sería algún día.

Interesante debate... Yo también creo que lo será; de hecho, ya hay algunos portales que tienen muy buena pinta. De todas formas casi no conozco buenas fuentes en Intenné, así que apuntaré opiniones. El otro día Pco me habló de historialago.com, por ejemplo, está curioso...

¡Qué bueno lo del trivial! ¿No os apetece repetirlo?

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Qué bueno lo del trivial! ¿No os apetece repetirlo?


Hombre, pues no es una mala idea después de todo; lo que pasa es que estando en internet no tiene mucho mérito, el que sea más rápido con el google (o con el copernic ) gana

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Déjame intentarlo... esta tarde posteo una preguntita
No bastará con ser rápido en el manejo del buscador...

 
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