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Jay Bee

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Valladolid, CA
Jan 1970
time: 06:14

14-02-2001 05:30

#31

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Guys, it'd be great if you joined forces and made a Gran Capitan scenario. This way more people out there could get to know this very brilliant general. I can offer my 'wisdom' in scenario design tricks.
[This message has been edited by Jay Bee (edited February 13, 2001).]

Fiera

Emperor

Proud Member of the Spanish Gang
Mar 2000
time: 06:14

19-02-2001 06:58

#32

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quote:

Originally posted by Jay Bee on 02-13-2001 07:30 PM
Guys, it'd be great if you joined forces and made a Gran Capitan scenario.

If Shaka is up to it, then I'm in, of course. For the moment, I'll send him some scanned pics and maps, and if he doesn't finally want to make it alone, he knows he can count on me.

Prometeus

King

of Old Europe - "In America we don't trust"
Jun 2000
time: 06:14

19-02-2001 10:48

#33

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fiera, i sent him an Italy map last month...

Hoek

Prince

of knock-you-off-your-ass chili
Jan 1970
time: 00:14

21-02-2001 12:49

#34

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hey "Jay Bee," what's goin on, man?

anyhows, here's some ideas:

Spanish
1) A Basque terrorism scenario

Latin America
2) The Drug Wars (i really think this is a great idea for a scenario)
3) The Mexican Civil War
4) The Banana Wars
5) The Pueblo Uprising

Other History
6) I have yet to see a good war of 1812 scenario
7) The Diamond Wars (current, too)
8) Caucasian Wars (perhaps Alex Mor could do this?)
9) The Cold War (object being to prevent war between USSR and USA while each pursues objectives)
10) The Space Race
11) Ancient African Civs

Sci-Fi
12) Terminator (robots v humans)
13) Outer Space (ocean could be space, land could be celestial bodies)

jasev

Moderator

of the SCS Forum
Feb 2001
time: 06:14

21-02-2001 20:09

#35

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quote:

Originally posted by Hoek on 02-21-2001 02:49 AM
Spanish
1) A Basque terrorism scenario

9) The Cold War (object being to prevent war between USSR and USA while each pursues objectives)

1) I don't think it's a good idea to work with such an actual topic. Many people could feel offended. There is a lot of sensibility in Spain about this (recently, a TV director has been fired because he authorised a report about it that was considered too "no-beligerant" with the terrorism.

2) There is already at least a scenario about Cold War: "Cold War X", by Jason Molthan, it's in the Civilization Scenario Collection (http://csc.apolyton.net)

Stefan Härtel

King

Eddie's best friend
Jul 1999
time: 06:14

22-02-2001 02:14

#36

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quote:

A looong time ago, Hoek (anyone met him?)

LOL

quote:

6) I have yet to see a good war of 1812 scenario

I like Techumseh's scen.

quote:

8) Caucasian Wars (perhaps Alex Mor could do this?)

Alex Mor has abandoned Civ2 temporarily, it is doubtful that he will ever return. However, I have been thinking about doing something like that, about the Russian-Persian struggle for the Caucasus between ca. 1780 and 1920. but I lack detailed sources (as a matter of fact, I have an excellent map and one 495-page book about the history of the Islamic states between 622 and 1939 -the book is from 1941 so I don't know how trustable- and I don't know how detailed the info is). It is a very provocative idea, and I'm seriously thinking about it.

quote:

2) There is already at least a scenario about Cold War: "Cold War X", by Jason Molthan, it's
in the Civilization Scenario Collection (http://csc.apolyton.net)

It's a very good one too, though with minor historical flaws.

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Waku

Emperor

Cádiz, Spain
Nov 2000
time: 06:14

22-02-2001 02:32

#37

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What d'ya think of a scn about the the share-out of Poland in the 18th century among Prusia, Austria and Russia?

Hoek

Prince

of knock-you-off-your-ass chili
Jan 1970
time: 00:14

22-02-2001 03:09

#38

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Hey, Stefan, if you're interested in doing a Philippines scenario, I have plenty of info for you, plus I had already made an extremely accurate map of the Philippines. I think it would be cool to do a scenario that started with the Spanish-American War and then do a Philippine Insurrection in the same scen.

One scenario that could be done that would be really creative would be a Polar Exploration scenario. There would be a few civilizations, and they would all have to compete to take a city on the poles, and you could have like "natural disaster" units, such as snow storms and stuff like that. I think that would be a fun scenario.

kIndal

King

de la taifa de Almería, Spain.
Oct 2000
time: 06:14

22-02-2001 04:04

#39

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quote:

Originally posted by Waku on 02-21-2001 04:32 PM
What d'ya think of a scn about the the share-out of Poland in the 18th century among Prusia, Austria and Russia?

I think that there are three or four scenarios about the Wars in North-East Europe in the XVII-XVIII centuries, aren´t there, Henrik

Allard HS

Prince

NL
Jan 1970
time: 06:14

22-02-2001 19:15

#40

Put an end to popups!

Wow! Look who's back now, it's Hoek!

Stefan Härtel

King

Eddie's best friend
Jul 1999
time: 06:14

22-02-2001 20:41

#41

Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

Oh, I don't know... I'm busy with doing some other scens already, so I can't even tell when to start it. It won't harm sending me the info however, since cpoulos and kIndal have already sent me a lot of very good stuff about this topic. My eMail's in the profile.

If you actually are ready to wait a while for it however, I'd consider doing that.

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Jay Bee

Moderator

Valladolid, CA
Jan 1970
time: 06:14

23-02-2001 01:27

#42

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A real blast from the past!!! Hi Hoek, old friend, how are you doing, pal!

Ain't it funny that I mention you in this thread and also in the Apolyton column and suddenly you pop up after... how long?

A few days ago Stew (he's making a lot of noise over the OTF -- as usual ) also told me you and he had re-started contact by e-mail.

Well, I only hope you stay around a little longer this time.

PS. What part of NJ were you in? (For the Location FAQ, ya'know)

PPS. whaddaya think of my current handle?

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23-02-2001 11:35

#43

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Volviendo al tema del thread:

Un scenario bueno de la guerra de la Triple Alianza contra el Paraguay, y uno sobre qué hubiera pasado si los Argentinos hubieramos hecho bién (cuando?) y nos hubieramos aliado con Paraguay.

Shaka Naldur

Emperor

Castellón, Spain
May 2000
time: 06:14

24-02-2001 00:28

#44

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hey hoek,

I like you web page

hey guys,

the must be done scenario is a good one about Alexander the Great and Napoleon

I think that Cockney was working on a huge project about Napoleon but the Alexander the Great´s scenario must be done, how is posssible that there is just one scenario about him!!!!!!!!!!!!!
no offense Stefan

turf

Settler

S.M. de Tucuman, Tucuman, Argentina
Jan 2001
time: 05:14

24-02-2001 08:10

#45

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Uno sobre las islas Malvinas estaria bueno...

Stefan Härtel

King

Eddie's best friend
Jul 1999
time: 06:14

24-02-2001 15:59

#46

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quote:

but the Alexander the
Great´s scenario must be done, how is posssible that there is just one scenario about
him!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I had asked somebody to do a map, but I haven't received it yet. Otherwise, I would already have started, believe me.

quote:

no offense Stefan

Huh? I am myself aware that Alexander the Great is an exciting topic, and I am very sad that as of now, I have done only this one, two or three years old scenario. And I have so many ideas, but I haven't got a map!!

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Prometeus

King

of Old Europe - "In America we don't trust"
Jun 2000
time: 06:14

24-02-2001 18:50

#47

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Then what you have to do is to give me coordinate points and dimensions, Stefan... you've found the volunteer...

Stefan Härtel

King

Eddie's best friend
Jul 1999
time: 06:14

24-02-2001 20:36

#48

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[*] Lake Taha (northern Ethiopia) as southwestern corner
[*] Lake Ohrid (Border between Albania and FYROM) as northwestern Corner
[*] Lake Balchash (Eastern Kazakhstan) as northeastern corner

That should be enough. Try to keep it in these borders, if it is a bit larger that is OK too, just try not to include Italy, the Ukraine and Ahmedabad, that would be too far. Try to make it as large as possible, I'd like to be able to have three entire city radii in Mainland Greece.
Thanks a lot!!!!!!!

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Prometeus

King

of Old Europe - "In America we don't trust"
Jun 2000
time: 06:14

24-02-2001 21:07

#49

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For mainland you mean classic Greece, Stefan, right? That means from 10 to 15 squares from Pelopponnesus to northern Beothia-southern Thessalia... consider this done in three days.

PS Since i don't know where cities are going to be placed, I'm not going to place forests or jungles in this map.

PPS Check out GS thread about "Alexander the Young" scen... really a well done scenario!

Shaka Naldur

Emperor

Castellón, Spain
May 2000
time: 06:14

26-02-2001 00:05

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hey guys
I think that the greek part and the anatolian peninsula should be bigger than it really it is

there is more action in Greece and in the Anatolian peninsula than in other provinces of the empire

I´m glad to know that Stefan is going to make the Alexander the Great scenario

what are those ideas that you were talking about?
I think that it is a hard scenario to make

Stefan Härtel

King

Eddie's best friend
Jul 1999
time: 06:14

26-02-2001 01:37

#51

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quote:

PS Since i don't know where cities are going to be placed, I'm not going to place forests or
jungles in this map.

OK, I will care about that. But, as I told you, try to make it go a little further to the east.

quote:

PPS Check out GS thread about "Alexander the Young" scen... really a well done scenario!

Already downloaded it-will try it!

quote:

there is more action in Greece and in the Anatolian peninsula than in other provinces of the empire

There really wasn't much action there during Alexander's campaign. OK, the battle of Granicus, the sieges of Miletus and Halicarnassus, the war between Sparta and the Corinthian League and the persian operations in the eastern Aegean, but these are actually things that can be represented in a little area. Besides, they all happened between Spring 334 (begin of campaign) and 333 (death of Memnon), and if you look at what happened further in the east... I was rather considering the city production especially in Thessaly and Macedonia, because these were the areas from where the Macedonians received regular backup forces.

quote:

I´m glad to know that Stefan is going to make the Alexander the Great scenario

Thanks

quote:

what are those ideas that you were talking about?

Originally, I thought about using multiple rules-files, but I dropped that... about the other ideas: Wait and see

quote:

I think that it is a hard scenario to make

Well... not really. It depends on how close to history you want it to be. Of course, I'll try to somehow let it follow the historic course - this can be done by some simple tricks. I will also try to make it so, that the player is in several occasions forced to follow Alexander's course. It simply is no fun if you give up after not being able to take Tyrus, and then just conquer Mesopotamia! You'll have to take it. I suppose this scenario will be a whole lot different from my previous ones.

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Prometeus

King

of Old Europe - "In America we don't trust"
Jun 2000
time: 06:14

26-02-2001 02:38

#52

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quote:

Originally posted by Stefan Härtel on 02-25-2001 03:37 PM
But, as I told you, try to make it go a little further to the east.

Done. Ifasis river's region is now included. I'm drawing mountains and deserts now. I'll place plains, hills and rivers lately.

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#53

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Estoy trabajando en un mapa de el sur de Argentina y chile (Sta. Cruz para abajo) y que incluya las Malvinas y las Gerogias...

Chris 62

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Jan 2001
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26-02-2001 13:40

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quote:

Originally posted by XIWVWIX on 02-25-2001 11:06 PM
Estoy trabajando en un mapa de el sur de Argentina y chile (Sta. Cruz para abajo) y que incluya las Malvinas y las Gerogias...

For a Malvinas/Falklands war scenario? I know quite a bit about this subject, that is why I ask.

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Yes, i was planing to do a scenario, but i'm still busy with the first one, so i'll send you the map as soon as i finish it.

Do you want a terrain mod? i got one for my SA map with penguins, tundra peat, etc...